tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post1808263275009391209..comments2024-03-29T02:53:45.372-07:00Comments on Robert Dyer @ Bethesda Row: Council committee temporarily scales back size of Westbard plan along much of River Rd., demands more low-income housingRobert Dyerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comBlogger68125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-39295237170161405212016-03-19T15:23:20.046-07:002016-03-19T15:23:20.046-07:00@8:52, Thank you for defending us NIMBYS. The folk...@8:52, Thank you for defending us NIMBYS. The folks hurling the word around will someday have to eat crow when they end up defending their own patch of land or community.<br /><br />I have seen self proclaimed "urbanist" who called others NIMBY suddenly get very freaked out and NIMBYESQUE when they saw plans to put a new road next to their house, planners called it better "connections" for the community. Lol, it seems there is a little NIMBY in all of us.<br /><br />As it should be.<br /><br />Thank you Robert for your well written and acurate reporting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-91111538235636757032016-03-18T12:16:57.895-07:002016-03-18T12:16:57.895-07:00This is a terrific analysis of the situation. Than...This is a terrific analysis of the situation. Thank you for your excellent work. Kathy Daviesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-87243775023653426312016-03-18T08:52:37.262-07:002016-03-18T08:52:37.262-07:00I find the bastardization of "NIMBY" to ...I find the bastardization of "NIMBY" to be fascinating. <br />Originally it had a positive connotation. These were people who forced issues to be reviewed, all part of the idea of joining together and helping the community grow in a smart way that gave every side a say. It may have been a politician in England who coined the phrase.<br /><br />The negative connotation seems to have started with developers who decided that any change to their plan was bad, and all the fault of NIMBYs. There's a push to go back to thinking NIMBYs are a help in moving plans forward.<br /><br />Interesting reading.<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-19988158350964816572016-03-18T05:13:31.920-07:002016-03-18T05:13:31.920-07:003:38: They have to because they're asking for ...3:38: They have to because they're asking for height and density beyond what is allowed. Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-13634423098877069012016-03-17T20:18:34.190-07:002016-03-17T20:18:34.190-07:00@ 7:26 PM said:
"If I had wanted to live in...@ 7:26 PM said: <br /><br />"If I had wanted to live in the city, I would have moved there. What about that don't you understand? No one forced you to move to a quiet suburb. Why do you live somewhere you don't like?"<br /><br />You don't own the land in question. What about that don't you understand?<br /><br />@ 7:40 PM - Why do you feel that our County councilmembers need to negotiate to get you "amenities" or "services" from properties that you don't own? You sound like a moocher.<br /><br />"community organizer from Chicago"<br /><br />What's a reactionary fossil like you doing in Montgomery County? You belong in Texas or Mississippi. Or at at least, no farther north than Stafford County, Virginia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-44316423520424226992016-03-17T19:40:31.044-07:002016-03-17T19:40:31.044-07:003:38
You are proving my point, change the word am...3:38 <br />You are proving my point, change the word amenity to a service where people go and pay money. What is so terrible about that? There aren't any, none, zip, zero, zilch..<br />Our Council members have the worst negotiating skills ever, even worse than a local DC community organizer from Chicago, and that's bad, real bad. Who wants to pay top dollar for rent when there's nothing to do. You can only walk/run/ride so many miles on the CCT. <br />The developers will lose big $$$<br /><br />"The Great Westbard Flimflam 2016"Trump3noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-30423841177509221712016-03-17T19:26:10.675-07:002016-03-17T19:26:10.675-07:00NIMBY is SO overused by people like you when you h...NIMBY is SO overused by people like you when you have no substantive argument. Frankly, I proudly defend my home and community which is the biggest investment I have ever made. NIMBY, you say that as if it were an insult.<br /><br />I am a NIMBY and proud of it. <br /><br />i worked hard, and picked the community I wanted to live in carefully. If I had wanted to live in the city, I would have moved there. What about that don't you understand? No one forced you to move to a quiet suburb. Why do you live somewhere you don't like? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-77324413892819185172016-03-17T15:38:46.885-07:002016-03-17T15:38:46.885-07:00Telling a NIMBY that their own house was built by ...Telling a NIMBY that their own house was built by a "developer" is like explaining to a child how they were conceived.<br /><br />Why should a property owner be required to offer NIMBYs "amenities" in exchange for the "privilege" of allowing others to live in their neighborhood?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-14510922090168125962016-03-17T14:32:57.634-07:002016-03-17T14:32:57.634-07:00There are no amenities. There never really were an...There are no amenities. There never really were any. If you actually believed that you were going to get all the developers promised, you are truly stupid. The only "amenity" is low income housing. When did low income housing become an amenity? Amenity for whom?<br /><br />And yes, developers are fundamentally greedy, that is the nature of their business, to make money and lots of it. They are not out to give the community amenities, but if they give the County Council "amenities" in the form of low income warehousing, well then, they expect to get their bonus density increase.<br /><br />So yes, greed is driving this sector plan, and the planners just keep "going to the well". God forbid they should actually use the high taxes we already pay to provide infrastructure improvements. Nope, the County wants to barter with developers hoping if they offer them enough "sky's the limit" promises on density they will "put out" and give the community the little pittance of "amenities" our tax dollars can't be used for.<br /><br />Vote them out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-20078157508785885442016-03-17T14:06:17.132-07:002016-03-17T14:06:17.132-07:00Well as Dyer often says, you're either first o...Well as Dyer often says, you're either first or you're last, or something like that. And seems like the developers are winning. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-25516172102382061912016-03-17T12:54:54.146-07:002016-03-17T12:54:54.146-07:0012:11
Exactly, I guess they didn't like my &qu...12:11<br />Exactly, I guess they didn't like my "Save Talbert's" idea? I was even there today, boy never a wait and everyone is so helpful, love that old place!<br /><br />Imagine having something new and exciting in Westbard, like a new and larger River Bowl, or a nice old style roller rink with different style skate night music themes, or a wonderful new modern community recreation center with an indoor lap pool and basketball court and weight room. <br /><br />I know this is very wishful thinking when it comes to greedy developers and their cohorts but don't we deserve some ammenities???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-37373591994371399282016-03-17T07:34:55.986-07:002016-03-17T07:34:55.986-07:00"Riemer's John Oliver-reading-Mao's-L..."Riemer's John Oliver-reading-Mao's-Little-Red-Book-on-downers ideology"<br /><br />I think the proper question to be asked is, did you have an epileptic fit while playing Scrabble?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-77120097753425163512016-03-17T04:56:40.082-07:002016-03-17T04:56:40.082-07:00I think 2:09s point was that they don't believ...I think 2:09s point was that they don't believe what you say so what's the point in reading?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-72489603162403963552016-03-17T04:55:48.886-07:002016-03-17T04:55:48.886-07:00Is every commentor that disagrees a troll in your ...Is every commentor that disagrees a troll in your opinion? Would this question count as trolling?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-34125191765233575602016-03-17T00:11:09.274-07:002016-03-17T00:11:09.274-07:00Nostalgia plays a nasty part with consumer sentime...Nostalgia plays a nasty part with consumer sentiment resisting change. Adapt or die, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-62856901527502506962016-03-17T00:09:09.486-07:002016-03-17T00:09:09.486-07:001960s architecture. Yuck. 1960s architecture. Yuck. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-43214082622839706462016-03-16T18:26:48.385-07:002016-03-16T18:26:48.385-07:00Unelected being the key word. Unelected being the key word. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-70459838063101278432016-03-16T16:16:30.459-07:002016-03-16T16:16:30.459-07:00@ 1:24 PM is an Army of One. LOL@ 1:24 PM is an Army of One. LOLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-78518437031312666802016-03-16T13:24:38.111-07:002016-03-16T13:24:38.111-07:00How can we boot these council members out of offic...How can we boot these council members out of office? <br /><br />We need a plan and funds. <br /><br />If they do not listen to their constituencies, then they should go.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-81012644398221280972016-03-16T10:03:32.197-07:002016-03-16T10:03:32.197-07:00"1960's style architecture"
You say..."1960's style architecture"<br /><br />You say this like it is a good thing.<br /><br />"superbly quick service"<br /><br />Self-service, with a cashier.<br /><br />"ice cold beer"<br /><br />Like every other beer and wine store nearby.<br /><br />"Where else am I going to buy my Bud Lights?"<br /><br />At the Giant, the Drug Fair, 7-11 or all those gas stations, once Maryland gets rid of its restrictions on alcohol sales at chains.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-88903725635672686092016-03-16T09:39:02.038-07:002016-03-16T09:39:02.038-07:009:31
Talberts is a fantasticl Ice and Beverage Sho...9:31<br />Talberts is a fantasticl Ice and Beverage Shop, a centerpiece of the community, great location and history, 1960's style architecture, superbly quick service, and best of all ice cold beer! I even remember buying my baseball cards and Big Buddys there as a kid.<br /><br />Perhaps a "Save Talberts" campaign is needed? Where else am I going to buy my Bud Lights?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-37219641747387116622016-03-16T09:03:07.250-07:002016-03-16T09:03:07.250-07:00What if? But not likely. What if? But not likely. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-17155485418829310582016-03-16T08:09:54.534-07:002016-03-16T08:09:54.534-07:00What if some of these non-coherent rants and comme...What if some of these non-coherent rants and comments are written by developer PR people to make those against development look like loony NIMBYs? Masterfully well done. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-39233546901755275292016-03-16T07:22:41.550-07:002016-03-16T07:22:41.550-07:00And then some!!And then some!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-5591785053395184112016-03-16T07:15:12.175-07:002016-03-16T07:15:12.175-07:00"this word was created by a developer pr firm..."this word was created by a developer pr firm to discredit opposition."<br /><br />As they say on Wikipedia, [citation needed].Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com