tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post3905555264570987035..comments2024-03-28T19:53:08.899-07:00Comments on Robert Dyer @ Bethesda Row: MoCo Councilmember says he doesn't feel "safe" after Trump victoryRobert Dyerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-44685520246317336262016-11-17T08:02:54.081-08:002016-11-17T08:02:54.081-08:00Tell it to Andrew Anglin.Tell it to Andrew Anglin.G. Moneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-20287366915240437872016-11-17T06:19:47.278-08:002016-11-17T06:19:47.278-08:00Neither does "libtard", yet it too is ap...Neither does "libtard", yet it too is applied to "good and bad actors alike."<br />But not as scary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-77913512153995083802016-11-16T20:44:50.840-08:002016-11-16T20:44:50.840-08:00I said no evidence connecting Bannon to "Nazi...I said no evidence connecting Bannon to "Nazism." "Alt-right" doesn't even have a defined meaning, and is being applied to good and bad actors alike.Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-13124958486785572822016-11-16T20:20:37.958-08:002016-11-16T20:20:37.958-08:00Dyer, are you saying that there's no evidence ...Dyer, are you saying that there's no evidence connecting Bannon to the alt-right or connecting the alt-right to nazis? (Either way you are easily proven wrong with a quick Google search)G. Moneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-84705932872304144012016-11-16T19:46:09.979-08:002016-11-16T19:46:09.979-08:00Dyer, what did Obama do to further narrow Constitu...Dyer, what did Obama do to further narrow Constitutional protections, beyond what Bush had done?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-91919748756866723582016-11-16T19:41:41.842-08:002016-11-16T19:41:41.842-08:006:25: Enforcing existing immigration law is not on...6:25: Enforcing existing immigration law is not only not fascism, but the "deportation force" was already used extensively by President Obama. An opinion on the issue abortion is no more fascism than claiming that your opinion for or against legalization of drugs is fascist.<br /><br />Many steps taken after 9/11 by the Bush and Obama administrations narrowed Constitutional protections, such as the 4th amendment. Will you condemn them as fascists?<br /><br />G. Money: There's no evidence connecting Bannon to any such group.Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-23343616041451457802016-11-16T18:20:24.975-08:002016-11-16T18:20:24.975-08:007:45 AM G.Money- you're several months behind ...7:45 AM G.Money- you're several months behind the news. The religious test went out awhile back in place of "extreme vetting".<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-90143513242793927192016-11-16T07:45:46.664-08:002016-11-16T07:45:46.664-08:00Let's not forget Trump's plan to impose a ...Let's not forget Trump's plan to impose a religious test for entering the country, and his appointment of a man closely associated with Nazism (aka the Alt-Right) as his chief political strategist in the White House.G. Moneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-42312675437395747672016-11-15T18:25:17.343-08:002016-11-15T18:25:17.343-08:007.23 am replying to Dyer's response:
1. Depor...7.23 am replying to Dyer's response:<br /><br />1. Deporting up to 3 million persons will require a substantial increase in federal domestic intelligence gathering. Such an effort is a precondition to fascism.<br /><br />2. Pope Francis's jurisdiction over abortion begins and ends with the Catholic Church and its members. Using the Pope's position on abortion to justify federal policy violates the 1st Amendment. Additional rolling back of Roe v. Wade violates the 14th Amendment rights of American women. The narrowing of Constitutional protections is a precondition to fascism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-41211976474992144872016-11-15T07:33:47.239-08:002016-11-15T07:33:47.239-08:00Are you saying that all prosecutors have committed...Are you saying that all prosecutors have committed horrible crimes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-51170139863229665532016-11-15T07:29:40.079-08:002016-11-15T07:29:40.079-08:006:51AM - Haven't you learned ANYTHING from Mau...6:51AM - Haven't you learned ANYTHING from Maury? The one doing the accusing is the guilty one !! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-18797215365132984672016-11-14T22:26:06.180-08:002016-11-14T22:26:06.180-08:00We truly have entered the silly season here in Mon...We truly have entered the silly season here in Montgomery County, folks. Fearmongering elected officials trying to scare the daylights out of children was just the beginning, apparently.Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-88834505474949006302016-11-14T22:17:29.598-08:002016-11-14T22:17:29.598-08:009:38: What are you referring to? Where is the &quo...9:38: What are you referring to? Where is the "white nationalist propaganda" here?Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-68012271530514634692016-11-14T21:38:58.382-08:002016-11-14T21:38:58.382-08:00I've read this blog for many years. It provide...I've read this blog for many years. It provides a great service. I've never commented before. I am commenting now as the last act I'll ever do on this site. I do not need white nationalist propaganda masquerading as political debate on a local news site. I hope you get over your demons and find some peace with yourself. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-7615346878360580172016-11-14T21:11:27.984-08:002016-11-14T21:11:27.984-08:002:26: Not surprised the lapdog media for the MoCo ...2:26: Not surprised the lapdog media for the MoCo cartel would cover a non-story for political reasons. They're the ones creeping around at the schools trying to hang out with the students. Creepy. Meanwhile, the County is facing another budget shortfall - can our "leaders" take a break from the presidential campaign (which has ended) and get back to work? Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-34330620881608722822016-11-14T14:26:09.293-08:002016-11-14T14:26:09.293-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-40311518198888198812016-11-14T14:15:57.947-08:002016-11-14T14:15:57.947-08:00Germany, Austria, Italy, Spain, Portugal, France, ...Germany, Austria, Italy, Spain, Portugal, France, and Poland.<br /><br />Guess what two things all these countries had in common in the early 20th Century, Dyer?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-10613957748053976442016-11-14T13:15:34.921-08:002016-11-14T13:15:34.921-08:00Catholicism is not fascism - I'm surprised som...Catholicism is not fascism - I'm surprised someone would make such an argument in an educated, enlightened place like Bethesda. Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-69719267351065410672016-11-14T11:41:20.161-08:002016-11-14T11:41:20.161-08:00George, now that you need to look for a real job a...George, now that you need to look for a real job and don't feel safe, you might want to spruce up your resume. Canada is nice this time of year. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-86036347434871934252016-11-14T08:06:57.433-08:002016-11-14T08:06:57.433-08:00Dyer, your right to your "religious opinion&q...Dyer, your right to your "religious opinion" ends at my uterus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-40297329792306446282016-11-14T07:41:30.490-08:002016-11-14T07:41:30.490-08:007:23: I'm not sure if the deportation of undoc...7:23: I'm not sure if the deportation of undocumented immigrants who have committed crimes while in this country falls under fascism. Restrictions on abortion are clearly a reduction in women's rights, but is a religious or ethical position on when life begins fascism? I'm not able to connect those dots. Pope Francis would be a fascist under that argument. <br /><br />Most on the Council are publicly pretending to have missed the message voters sent with term limits. Comments by Nancy Floreen and Hans Riemer in particular are reminiscent of Monty Python's "It's just a flesh wound." <br /><br />They and their allies (what few remain) are even saying it was part of the Trump phenomenon. Hysterical, given that the same percentage of voters who chose Hillary went for term limits as well.<br /><br />We'll have to teach the remaining Council the lesson again in 2018.<br /><br />Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-61117625181704819022016-11-14T07:23:58.908-08:002016-11-14T07:23:58.908-08:00Robert, I'd term the combined impact of massiv...Robert, I'd term the combined impact of massive, forced deportations (3 million to begin with, as announced by Trump) and the further restriction of abortion rights (a fundamental liberty for women of childbearing age) a darned good start on fascism. Believe me, I don't feel safer.<br /><br />That said, I'm very glad that Leventhal, whom I've found sanctimonious, will be off the Council after 2018. No, I will not be voting for him for County Executive.<br /><br />By the way: how are Council members and their staffs reacting to the passage of term limits? Any reflection on what they might have done differently?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-11761500134372954632016-11-14T05:28:43.463-08:002016-11-14T05:28:43.463-08:008:54: That is one definition of fascism, but the q...8:54: That is one definition of fascism, but the question I asked was, which specific Trump policy initiatives are "fascist?"<br /><br />9:15: I would recommend the local media and elected officials stop trying to create a climate of fear to score some sort of sick political points. How about arresting an actual suspect before jumping to conclusions? At what point has Donald Trump ever utilized a swastika in his campaign? In fact, it was the media who promoted the idea, not Trump, with this loony idea that he is a fascist and a dictator. It's one thing to disagree vehemently with the policies of Trump or Clinton, and quite another to go off the deep end with completely false statements and accusations. Let's try to remain the highly-educated and enlightened area Bethesda is known for being.Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-60229205609352099272016-11-13T21:15:57.177-08:002016-11-13T21:15:57.177-08:00It's pretty clear that the election has empowe...It's pretty clear that the election has empowered the evil among us. Don't try to downplay the vandalism, Robert. There's clearly been a spike in this activity in our community.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-56500212714427131492016-11-13T20:54:07.440-08:002016-11-13T20:54:07.440-08:00Have you read Friendly Fascism by Bertram Gross?
...Have you read Friendly Fascism by Bertram Gross?<br /><br />Or Lawrence Britt's 14 Characteristics of Fascism?<br /> The 14 characteristics are:<br /><br /> Powerful and Continuing Nationalism<br /> <br /> Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights<br /> <br /> Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause<br /> <br /> Supremacy of the Military<br /> <br /> Rampant Sexism<br /> <br /> Controlled Mass Media<br /> <br /> Obsession with National Security<br /> <br /> Religion and Government are Intertwined<br /> <br /> Corporate Power is Protected<br /> <br /> Labor Power is Suppressed<br /> <br /> Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts<br /> <br /> Obsession with Crime and Punishment<br /> <br /> Rampant Cronyism and Corruption<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com