tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post5127845715183204090..comments2024-03-28T19:53:08.899-07:00Comments on Robert Dyer @ Bethesda Row: MoCo mediators suddenly terminate mediation in Westbard cemetery disputeRobert Dyerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-9614412912592123982017-10-04T07:07:41.586-07:002017-10-04T07:07:41.586-07:00Robert, do you understand whether the church can g...Robert, do you understand whether the church can get involved in the litigation you reference in some fashion? This stinks to high heaven. <br /><br />All of you with your "how can you PROOOOOVE it" sound ridiculous, you realize. There is plenty of evidence that there are bodies there, and in any event there are technologies that can be used to confirm. But no, the county and the developer just want all systems go, never mind we desecrated before, let's keep doing it. If these potential graves contained white bodies we would not be having this conversation. As a resident, taxpayer, voter and parent -- as well as decent human being -- I'm not interested in having people continue to treat people with less respect because of the color of their skin. It makes me sick to see such blatant racism in my own community, "Anonymous."Monicanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-63225699808210969222017-09-30T10:18:25.995-07:002017-09-30T10:18:25.995-07:008.41am is right and no response has been received....8.41am is right and no response has been received. There are now multiple scientific way to find whether bodies are buried somewhere. Use those methods, find the bodies. Otherwise, it’s a red herring. Also I will now be screenshotting my comments to rebut your absurd charges of racism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-1169001938657559792017-09-29T08:41:06.112-07:002017-09-29T08:41:06.112-07:00And the land records were true at the time of fili...And the land records were true at the time of filing.<br />But that was before the parking lot was built. Before the land was disturbed.<br /><br />I stand by my original statement:<br /><br />"Can we all agree to see if there actually ARE graves with remains still there?<br />That's the most basic place to start.<br />Until that's determined as fact, it's all speculation."<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-78265160904044147882017-09-29T08:34:23.777-07:002017-09-29T08:34:23.777-07:008:02: Land records on file are as much legal docum...8:02: Land records on file are as much legal documents as a contract.Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-1539692005253798612017-09-29T08:02:49.385-07:002017-09-29T08:02:49.385-07:00Nope, not falling for your distraction.
A contrac...Nope, not falling for your distraction.<br /><br />A contract (like a lease) is different than a "written account" of an activity.<br />A contract is a legally enforceable agreement for doing or not doing an act.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-67147736926293595672017-09-29T06:54:38.996-07:002017-09-29T06:54:38.996-07:00100’s of graves is ludicrous. Prove it, and make ...100’s of graves is ludicrous. Prove it, and make it fact. and, for the record, the church does have the land. You can bury 100’s of stacked graves. I guess you have not visited a cemetery where they have “lockers” as i call them, stacked. The graves can be moved, buried underground, and they can give up the parking for the sake of peace for these souls. (Or, they can park on top of them).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-25570939033819981712017-09-29T06:44:47.719-07:002017-09-29T06:44:47.719-07:005:52: Saul would be proud of my work, but just try...5:52: Saul would be proud of my work, but just try telling a landlord or bank that the rental agreement or contract you signed has no legal merit in a dispute.<br /><br />Of course no one can go to the site today and prove this hour there are bodies there without digging on private property and being arrested. That's why a judge and (in theory) Montgomery County government must proceed as if they are there, because all of the legal documents support that. The position of the developer, HOC and the Montgomery County Council and Planning Board, in contrast, was, "We don't know what's there."<br /><br />Well, actually we do. All physical and legal evidence tells us the bodies are there. No physical or legal evidence exists to indicate any removal of graves. Therefore, we must proceed with the greatest caution, as if the graves are there.<br /><br />No one has to "believe" the graves are there, but they must legally proceed as if they were, because that's what all the actual evidence shows us. Personally, I would bet my life that there are bodies there, because I know it to be true. The people who have testified to it, in addition, are highly trustworthy and in a position to know.Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-48932943653382313662017-09-29T05:52:57.333-07:002017-09-29T05:52:57.333-07:00My god you're dense as a brick.
The papers are...My god you're dense as a brick.<br />The papers are not physical evidence. Yes, they are phyical pieces of paper, but their contents are circumstantial.<br />I'm not denying there are graves. I'm not agreeing there are graves.<br /><br />I'm talking the truth. No one knows for sure if there are still occupied graves on that site.<br /><br />You are talking opinion or possibilities. <br /><br />Your Saul Alinsky comment doesn't apply. Disagreeing with someone and asking questions is completely different than the methods proposed by community organizer Alinsky. In fact, you employ many of his methods in this here little blog of yours.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-60829545837655048622017-09-28T21:23:05.863-07:002017-09-28T21:23:05.863-07:00Dyer, this is 9.33. Why did you delete my comment?...Dyer, this is 9.33. Why did you delete my comment?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-13795495069701607912017-09-28T18:49:55.337-07:002017-09-28T18:49:55.337-07:00@ 6:44 PM - Funny how "Charlottesville_Cav&qu...@ 6:44 PM - Funny how "Charlottesville_Cav" was here for a while, then disappeared completely after that nasty alt-right rally and murder in his namesake city on August 12.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-87566980631995343892017-09-28T18:44:27.280-07:002017-09-28T18:44:27.280-07:00@ 9:19 AM said "the original sin of Westbard&...@ 9:19 AM said "the original sin of Westbard".<br /><br />That phrase was used six times previously - by Robert Dyer, "Friends of Woodmont Triangle", "Charlottesville_Cav" and "Roald".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-23158509954299817342017-09-28T12:35:42.718-07:002017-09-28T12:35:42.718-07:00Bizarre that the mediation has been canceled due t...Bizarre that the mediation has been canceled due to alleged scheduling issues after just two sessions. There is something very wrong here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-50943794072477507132017-09-28T11:46:24.502-07:002017-09-28T11:46:24.502-07:00I delight at the thought of Reimer going back to C...I delight at the thought of Reimer going back to California.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-80426661090107747492017-09-28T11:37:19.483-07:002017-09-28T11:37:19.483-07:00I cringe at the thought of those two in charge. I cringe at the thought of those two in charge. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-16922842421763672682017-09-28T10:22:00.221-07:002017-09-28T10:22:00.221-07:00A Ficker Dyer duo on the council would go a long w...A Ficker Dyer duo on the council would go a long way to changing things for the better for Montgomery County. We need to shake up this council badly.Roaldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-43856203251085210222017-09-28T08:29:39.678-07:002017-09-28T08:29:39.678-07:00"No, because the CRCMC's arbitrary decisi..."No, because the CRCMC's arbitrary decision to terminate greatly helps the County, Regency and HOC."<br /><br />Is that "physical evidence"?<br /><br />"There would be no question that developing the cemetery would be out of the question if I were on the Council."<br /><br />How? You would be, at most, one out of nine on the Council. There is no such thing as a majority of one.<br /><br />P.S.: Your Captcha is F-ed up. It thinks that two guitars and a violin are "cellos".<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-26153208285200105482017-09-28T08:25:54.899-07:002017-09-28T08:25:54.899-07:00@ 8:22 AM - "Sacred ground" and "We...@ 8:22 AM - "Sacred ground" and "Westbard" are redundant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-83762621904258817872017-09-28T08:25:25.833-07:002017-09-28T08:25:25.833-07:008:18: No, because the CRCMC's arbitrary decisi...8:18: No, because the CRCMC's arbitrary decision to terminate greatly helps the County, Regency and HOC.<br /><br />8:22: There would be no question that developing the cemetery would be out of the question if I were on the Council. You can be sure many residents have "voter's regret" from November 2014!Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-90250147805529623982017-09-28T08:24:51.436-07:002017-09-28T08:24:51.436-07:00Hey, Dyer, why did you delete the comment that not...Hey, Dyer, why did you delete the comment that noted that you've only published two detailed crime reports in the past three months? (One of which was about a sign at an elementary school which was defaced to insult Trump.)<br /><br />Why no coverage of that deadly fire on Danbury Road? The deads that keep popping up in local parks and parking lots?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-71668458754410557242017-09-28T08:22:03.291-07:002017-09-28T08:22:03.291-07:00Robert, if you were in office, please tell me you ...Robert, if you were in office, please tell me you would protect these sacred grounds and not let developers keep encroaching on Westbard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-50301516520404012472017-09-28T08:18:48.099-07:002017-09-28T08:18:48.099-07:00"6:55: They claimed no one could agree on a t..."6:55: They claimed no one could agree on a time to meet, which all parties agree was not true."<br /><br />So you're claiming that the MoCo Cartel disagrees with the CRCMC? So it would seem that the two are independent of each other.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-12139541132406879952017-09-28T08:11:36.899-07:002017-09-28T08:11:36.899-07:006:36: The land records and burial announcements ar...6:36: The land records and burial announcements are on paper, and therefore physical evidence. Those asserting there are no graves have no such paper trail, or any other physical evidence. They also do not even have two oral accounts that corroborate each other - from opposing sides! - that indicate bodies were found in the late 1960s during excavation.<br /><br />We've been over this 1000 times, and you are in Saul Alinsky territory at this point.<br /><br />"If each letter requires a response, send 30000 letters." - Saul Alinsky<br /><br />7:27: It's just a statement of fact. Parties in the mediation were not permitted to discuss what was said at those sessions.<br /><br />6:55: They claimed no one could agree on a time to meet, which all parties agree was not true.Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-57967708067614318432017-09-28T07:23:46.218-07:002017-09-28T07:23:46.218-07:00"Public protests and marches had to be put on..."Public protests and marches had to be put on the back burner during mediation."<br /><br />How come you never mentioned this to your readers, until now? Lots of them were asking about Justice Tuesdays, and why you didn't seem to be covering them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-30290691092932379222017-09-28T06:55:13.855-07:002017-09-28T06:55:13.855-07:00Dyer, did you ask the CRCMC why they cancelled the...Dyer, did you ask the CRCMC why they cancelled the mediation? That's what a good reporter would do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-76076129459129888352017-09-28T06:43:38.383-07:002017-09-28T06:43:38.383-07:00Circumstantial. Look it up.
All the records suppo...Circumstantial. Look it up.<br />All the records support my position.<br />My position btw is that you cannot say for certain the graves are still there. They may be. They may not be. Theoretically, both statements are true, but I fear that discussion is beyond your capabilities to not insert opinion into logic.<br />Solutions may change upon the facts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com