tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post5536994804420661767..comments2024-03-29T04:57:59.779-07:00Comments on Robert Dyer @ Bethesda Row: Church asks HOC to allow cadaver dogs onto Bethesda black cemetery siteRobert Dyerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-4442169352246462352018-02-26T04:15:55.007-08:002018-02-26T04:15:55.007-08:00The museum is a waste of money and doesn't ser...The museum is a waste of money and doesn't serve the actual needs of the community. Carpetbaggers = exactly what this church represents in the way of their leadership. As others have mentioned, the developer and the community who work, play (shop and live) need what this developer is offering. Also, yes, not everyone is a free lancing protestor and complainer like Sue Schumacher et alia, so they cannot be heard as easily. People are tired of the eyesore and lack of density there in the way of retail and housing. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-978546743862461772018-02-25T22:00:04.322-08:002018-02-25T22:00:04.322-08:00The Westbard Plan has little in the way of communi...The Westbard Plan has little in the way of community space, arts or historical features. The museum could help satisfy these needs.<br /><br />Students would be able to learn the hidden history of Bethesda.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-82199930023742710282018-02-25T20:33:03.745-08:002018-02-25T20:33:03.745-08:00"The history of the Westbard area of Bethesda..."The history of the Westbard area of Bethesda must be told."<br /><br />Just make a nice binder and leave it in the reference section of the Little Falls Library, so the 2 or 3 people who are actually interested can read it there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-91017982983011820502018-02-25T20:28:27.065-08:002018-02-25T20:28:27.065-08:00@3:15 If it was the Berliner family plot, and they...@3:15 If it was the Berliner family plot, and they cared about it, they wouldn't sell it. This plot was sold more than 50 years ago. They didn't care about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-7410828429990401482018-02-25T18:42:59.217-08:002018-02-25T18:42:59.217-08:005:51 PM The museum/memorial wouldn't involve d...5:51 PM The museum/memorial wouldn't involve desecrating the cemetery again. <br />The history of the Westbard area of Bethesda must be told.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-66289723208931830652018-02-25T18:38:40.944-08:002018-02-25T18:38:40.944-08:003:15 = #UnsignedBoyceBowles3:15 = #UnsignedBoyceBowlesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-24369783900269470572018-02-25T17:51:13.051-08:002018-02-25T17:51:13.051-08:00"This is part of the reason why I support a m..."This is part of the reason why I support a memorial museum on the site."<br /><br />So you're in favor desecrating the cemetery a second time, to build this "memorial museum"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-50004636552594658392018-02-25T15:15:54.201-08:002018-02-25T15:15:54.201-08:002:55 PM Race plays an issue with this matter. If i...2:55 PM Race plays an issue with this matter. If it was the Berliner family plot (for example), I doubt the county would have proceeded in the same way or impugned the motives of the church.<br /><br />This is part of the reason why I support a memorial museum on the site. If we don't study history, we'll never learn from our mistakes. The county actually wanted to desecrate the cemetery again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-19769432005712384032018-02-25T14:40:07.180-08:002018-02-25T14:40:07.180-08:002:15 PM Let's be clear: I haven't seen one...2:15 PM Let's be clear: I haven't seen one iota of evidence that Mr. Dyer had exaggerated anything about the burial site. Everyone who has attended the meetings or been involved have touted Mr. Dyer's reporting as important.<br /><br />Now, I haven't seen anyone publicly dispute that. A lone racist Internet troll who says the church is lying can't change the facts! Indeed, the existence of the burial grounds is an inconvenient truth for the developer. I recommend they deal with the issue in an humane way and not attack the community and church messengers. Boyce Bowlesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-17606441184540037632018-02-25T14:15:32.874-08:002018-02-25T14:15:32.874-08:00"Boyce Bowles said...
12:00 PM You continue t..."Boyce Bowles said...<br />12:00 PM You continue to make things up out of whole cloth."<br /><br />I have never posted here before, so I have no cloth to make up.<br /><br />-----------------<br /><br />"Who are the "many" who argued anything like that about Dyer's reporting? Is this the same massive group we keep hearing about that favors the Westbard Plan, but never emerge? No one has ever seen or heard from this imaginary pro-Westbard plan group. "<br /><br />Mr. Bowles, as I have noticed you are a regular reader of this Blog, it is disingenuous of you to pretend that there has not been frequent comments left here that the whole Cemetery Protest is nothing more than a McGuffin, or red herring, for the Anti-Westbard folks. While I do not doubt the sincerity of many involved in the Cemetery protests, Dyer's reporting on the issue has exaggerated, distorted, or has invented many aspects of this issue, particularly the motives of the HOC, the Montgomery County Police, the Developers involved, and the County Council. Sad.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-85322168293440434292018-02-25T13:44:40.219-08:002018-02-25T13:44:40.219-08:00"Who are the "many" who argued anyt..."Who are the "many" who argued anything like that about Dyer's reporting? Is this the same massive group we keep hearing about that favors the Westbard Plan, but never emerge?"<br /><br />Kind of like Dyer's "third party analytics", which have never seen the light of day. LOLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-73274030315625846832018-02-25T13:29:33.952-08:002018-02-25T13:29:33.952-08:00Boys' Balls - Why do you keep conflating "...Boys' Balls - Why do you keep conflating "some residents of Westbard" with "all Bethesda residents"?<br /><br />Westbard is only a tiny anthill within the much larger area of Bethesda. No one who lives more than a mile away cares about the crappy old shopping center.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-83761377775505189822018-02-25T13:10:15.625-08:002018-02-25T13:10:15.625-08:0012:00 PM You continue to make things up out of who...12:00 PM You continue to make things up out of whole cloth.<br /><br />Who are the "many" who argued anything like that about Dyer's reporting? Is this the same massive group we keep hearing about that favors the Westbard Plan, but never emerge? No one has ever seen or heard from this imaginary pro-Westbard plan group. <br /><br />We've been seeing false reporting from other outlets who are either misinformed or deliberately trying to mislead folks. The most recent false reports were that the fight had been won, the place massively reduced and we can all go home be quiet. Obviously, Bethesda residents haven't fallen for that false narrative! They'll continue to fight for their neighborhood's quality of life and for respect towards the cemetery.Boyce Bowlesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-1674543070335549642018-02-25T12:00:04.795-08:002018-02-25T12:00:04.795-08:00This blog post by Robert Dyer has to be the least ...This blog post by Robert Dyer has to be the <b>least impartial</b> reporting or summary of the facts of this Cemetery dispute ever printed or published anywhere in the world.<br /><br />I have become convinced with the many who over time have argued that this is Dyer's backdoor movement to block the Westbard development plans.<br /><br />And this is another embarrassing attempt at "journalism" by Robert. I would be horrified, but I still have not recovered from his earlier claim this week that the children protesting the lack of gun controls are paid actors -- and not sincere protestors.<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-19370906866218108022018-02-25T11:56:53.739-08:002018-02-25T11:56:53.739-08:00Don't you just love the smell of apology in th...Don't you just love the smell of apology in the morning?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-61338498217661051232018-02-25T11:35:35.121-08:002018-02-25T11:35:35.121-08:00It's not racist to call it an alleged cemetery...It's not racist to call it an alleged cemetery. If you walk there now, you'll see no sign of a cemetery. Maybe it was there, maybe it was moved, maybe it was elsewhere.<br /><br />You know who might know? The original owner who sold it. If it was such an important cemetery, why did they sell it? If they were short on money, the church could have bought it.<br /><br />Why did the church not set up a cemetery on their own land anyway?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-16840406678899058412018-02-25T11:32:45.096-08:002018-02-25T11:32:45.096-08:00Bethesda residents in the area are standing should...Bethesda residents in the area are standing shoulder to shoulder with the church and spirit of those buried in this property.Boyce Bowlesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-33818851949636617382018-02-25T11:02:28.193-08:002018-02-25T11:02:28.193-08:00The Conflict Resolution Center of Montgomery Count...The Conflict Resolution Center of Montgomery County is a private, non-profit entity.<br /><br />http://crcmc.org/aboutus/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-14027592634695146922018-02-25T10:50:28.827-08:002018-02-25T10:50:28.827-08:006:54 - And they are not Coleman-Adebayo's ance...6:54 - And they are not Coleman-Adebayo's ancestors, either. She is from Detroit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-70296251290206941142018-02-25T10:12:18.017-08:002018-02-25T10:12:18.017-08:00MAYBE THEY WILL MOVE THAT CEMETERY TO THE REDWOODMAYBE THEY WILL MOVE THAT CEMETERY TO THE REDWOODAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-45617902412314683062018-02-25T10:02:43.171-08:002018-02-25T10:02:43.171-08:00The real story here:
https://www.washingtonpost.c...The real story here:<br /><br />https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/negotiations-stall-over-vanished-african-american-cemetery-in-bethesda/2017/10/04/b41bb346-a93a-11e7-850e-2bdd1236be5d_story.html?utm_term=.b05e546e95ad<br /><br />The commission repeatedly said it was unable to vote on the issue because it is currently a defendant in a related lawsuit filed in Montgomery County Circuit Court by residents who argue that they would be harmed by the Westbard development plan.<br /><br />“We came here because we need the commission to vote, we actually want you to vote,” said Marsha Coleman-Adebayo, chair of Macedonia’s social justice ministry.<br /><br />“There will be no vote on this issue while it is in litigation,” responded Jackie Simon, chair of the housing commission.<br /><br />In the spring and summer, the housing commission, Macedonia Baptist Church, the county and other involved parties took part in county-sponsored mediation regarding the Westbard property. County Executive Isiah Leggett (D) and Council President Roger Berliner (D-Potomac-Bethesda), had said in March that mediation was necessary “to assist those who believe their ancestors were buried on this site.”<br /><br />But negotiations crumbled last month after mediators said the parties could not decide on a date for their third session.<br /><br />Church members argued that mediators unilaterally cancelled the sessions despite the fact that all participants had signed up for one or more offered dates.<br /><br />“The mediator decided to call off the mediation without asking anyone,” Coleman-Adebayo said.<br /><br />The commission’s executive director, Stacy Spann, declined to participate in a third mediation, concerned that issues raised in the first two sessions were not kept confidential and sensitive information ended up in the lawsuit pending in circuit court, according to county officials.<br /><br />Issues “alleged in the complaint were very close to what we had discussed in the mediation,” said Ramona Bell-Pearson, assistant chief administrative officer in the County Executive’s Office. “The HOC director became very concerned.”<br /><br />An attorney from the housing commission would continue to take part in the mediation, said Shauna Sorrells, director of legislative and public affairs for the commission.<br /><br />But church members said they would not participate in a third session unless Spann returned to the table, Bell-Pearson said. Spann agreed to rejoin negotiations at the end of August, according to Sorrells. Yet on Sept. 20, mediators sent an email cancelling future sessions.<br /><br />“We have offered numerous dates and times and sent out two polls, but have not been able to come up with a date and time that works for all the key parties to this dispute,” the email read.<br /><br />Christopher Page, executive director of the mediation group, said the door is still open for parties to work towards a solution."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-36969683520808635812018-02-25T09:48:32.746-08:002018-02-25T09:48:32.746-08:00All this bile and hate towards the church and buri...All this bile and hate towards the church and buried freed slaves...just so a developer can build a parking garage on the graves.<br /><br />This is Montgomery County in 2018.Rugbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-72215416589725242062018-02-25T08:34:28.827-08:002018-02-25T08:34:28.827-08:00This farce is probably the most hilarious example ...This farce is probably the most hilarious example of Nimbyism I've ever seen.Terpsuckanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-60277392104695077602018-02-25T07:47:22.202-08:002018-02-25T07:47:22.202-08:00Dr Tauber is rolling in his grave right now.Dr Tauber is rolling in his grave right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-91261028332346604522018-02-25T07:15:19.451-08:002018-02-25T07:15:19.451-08:00Dan McHugh looks like he just wet his pants.Dan McHugh looks like he just wet his pants.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com