tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post6631082451911566091..comments2024-03-29T04:57:59.779-07:00Comments on Robert Dyer @ Bethesda Row: Surprise street closure for crane installation irks Bethesda drivers, pedestrians (Photos)Robert Dyerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-77128238970075785082015-04-14T08:22:01.396-07:002015-04-14T08:22:01.396-07:00I get that. But what would a sign have done? They ...I get that. But what would a sign have done? They would be in tr same situation likely. Same with advanced notice. What small percentage of people check?<br /><br />Ideally yes we are well informed in advance and on the spot and we all pay attention. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-90157677660101134322015-04-13T10:29:07.839-07:002015-04-13T10:29:07.839-07:00Everything is awesome. Everything is cool when you...Everything is awesome. Everything is cool when you're living the dream. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-83963060324360608152015-04-13T10:25:24.041-07:002015-04-13T10:25:24.041-07:00@8:20 I was there this weekend. The weather was lo...@8:20 I was there this weekend. The weather was lovely and that area was packed with people walking around. It did affect a lot of people. I personally saw 3 sets of people (2 of them families with small childen) forced to walk down the car entrance to Capital Crescent Garage because the pedestrian access had been blocked.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-9448781011563325262015-04-13T08:20:57.118-07:002015-04-13T08:20:57.118-07:00I agree they should provide advanced notice, but r...I agree they should provide advanced notice, but realistically how many affected people would even notice?<br /><br />I agreed they should have signage, but realistically a closed street with or without a sign may not make much of a difference in outcomes. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-83891471940569728652015-04-13T07:23:07.249-07:002015-04-13T07:23:07.249-07:00@7:05 That's interesting it wasn't in the ...@7:05 That's interesting it wasn't in the newsletter either. Maybe they didn't have a permit to close the road at all? How does one look up that information?<br /><br />This is why road and sidewalk closures should have clear signage with dates of closure, permit #, and contact point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-89267242663045694512015-04-13T07:05:57.035-07:002015-04-13T07:05:57.035-07:006:55 AM Agreed. This doesn't just impact folks...6:55 AM Agreed. This doesn't just impact folks who live on that block.<br /><br />More communication is better than less.<br />A sign shouldn't be a big deal. <br /><br />I have the weekly newsletter from the BCC Services Center open right now and it talks about temporary lane closures on other streets. Why not include this one? Legitimate question. Maybe it fell between the cracks?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-66673838504163044712015-04-13T06:55:02.307-07:002015-04-13T06:55:02.307-07:00What's so hard about the developers posting a ...What's so hard about the developers posting a sign about the road closure in advance? I see no reason why they should NOT do this. The roads and sidewalks are owned by the public, so the public has a right to know in advance about the closures. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-24240429059268615912015-04-13T06:18:23.971-07:002015-04-13T06:18:23.971-07:00I get they should try to notify folks. Even if the...I get they should try to notify folks. Even if they try though people don't always get the message. And it's not always a huge deal for a temporary shutdown if the finished product is better. Woodmont when it was closed for a long while really didn't seem much different. Not a huge deal. Definitely not like if they closed 355. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-24914811854462663872015-04-13T05:46:37.954-07:002015-04-13T05:46:37.954-07:004:40: Translation: "The County is infallible...4:40: Translation: "The County is infallible! Everything is awesome! There can be no dissent! Resistance is futile!"Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-27948645238845871852015-04-13T05:43:54.392-07:002015-04-13T05:43:54.392-07:0011:38: OK, that makes sense, then. So they did ale...11:38: OK, that makes sense, then. So they did alert property owners. But that still leaves the general public, and I believe a number of people have brought up the issues that resulted from that on Twitter and in the comments here. I agree it's not 355, but it is still a major thoroughfare and access route for reaching and parking at Bethesda Row. Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-75943556601967277402015-04-13T05:25:35.581-07:002015-04-13T05:25:35.581-07:00All the folks I saw making u-turns on woodmont bac...All the folks I saw making u-turns on woodmont back to 355 Wisconsin dn't "get the memo" presumably. <br />No one is pointing fingers. Let's just strive to do better next time. <br />Dyer is just trying to improve stuff, he's on top of pedestrian access issues.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-62787149070179675112015-04-13T04:40:48.366-07:002015-04-13T04:40:48.366-07:00I was driving that way this weekend. When I had to...I was driving that way this weekend. When I had to turn left and move my steering wheel a meer 5 inches I was irked. I ended up getting to the same place in the same amount of time just like 99% of the drivers who use that stretch of road, but damn that left turn ticked me off. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-16684753400057696382015-04-13T04:38:36.639-07:002015-04-13T04:38:36.639-07:00I don't see how that is a main road Dyer. It&#...I don't see how that is a main road Dyer. It's been closed for over a year and didn't cause any traffic issues. One day shouldn't be a problem. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-88976812509689706222015-04-13T03:42:17.758-07:002015-04-13T03:42:17.758-07:00I know. That is directly because of your response ...I know. That is directly because of your response where you said "Robert Dyer6:14 PM<br />5:17: So it's not a big deal if a disabled person is denied access, or a pedestrian is injured?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-75380720454460888622015-04-12T23:33:49.294-07:002015-04-12T23:33:49.294-07:00Dyer, my office is on Woodmont and I live in a con...Dyer, my office is on Woodmont and I live in a condo on Hampden. I received notices from the management company at the office and from the BoD at home. It's not like they're shutting down Wisconsin Ave here. You're over-reacting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-16315971333024909192015-04-12T22:24:55.702-07:002015-04-12T22:24:55.702-07:006:39: You're talking about two different thing...6:39: You're talking about two different things - safety during the closure, and the need for advance notice of a road closure.Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-15337370706725080552015-04-12T22:24:03.606-07:002015-04-12T22:24:03.606-07:007:14: So that's why we keep hearing about lane...7:14: So that's why we keep hearing about lane shifts on MD 355? Let's be consistent here. This was a full closure of a main road, not a lane shift.Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-1413012979279125122015-04-12T22:22:39.232-07:002015-04-12T22:22:39.232-07:007:16: So why was it open to able-bodied people who...7:16: So why was it open to able-bodied people who were walking on it? I was responding to the commenter who said the end justifies the means.Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-77887595224453194522015-04-12T22:21:06.474-07:002015-04-12T22:21:06.474-07:009:16: That's different from a public notice. B...9:16: That's different from a public notice. By the way, how would you know what was emailed to property owners? That would mean you are either part of the companies involved, or in the office of an affected property.Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-44348506935637046472015-04-12T21:16:23.732-07:002015-04-12T21:16:23.732-07:00Dyer are you just pissed that no one sent you the ...Dyer are you just pissed that no one sent you the memo? Quite literally, there was a memo (in the form on an email) that was circulated to all area building owners and property managers informing them of the closure. Heavy equipment necessary for the completion of these buildings mandate lane closures, and area residents and tenants were informed. This is a non-issue. No handicapped people were injured, Dyer. Relax.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-26686263601867744842015-04-12T20:33:45.569-07:002015-04-12T20:33:45.569-07:00Was the pedestrian walkway closed or was it open? ...Was the pedestrian walkway closed or was it open? It wasn't clear to me and now I see others were just as confused.<br /><br />FYI for anyone walking there tonight: There was shattered glass on Woodmont near The Darcy lobby entrance that made its way on the pedestrian walkway today. Doubt anyone is on site to clean it up yet.<br /><br />I can't recall all lanes of a major road closing for an entire weekend without public notice. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-90583571691145600382015-04-12T19:16:22.496-07:002015-04-12T19:16:22.496-07:00"So it's not a big deal if a disabled per..."So it's not a big deal if a disabled person is denied access, or a pedestrian is injured?"<br /><br />Huh? Who said that? The entire point of the closure is so pedestrians AREN'T injured. Stop being a constant ass of a troll, Dyer. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-76204434297631400672015-04-12T19:14:17.640-07:002015-04-12T19:14:17.640-07:00"Communicating a major road closure is largel..."Communicating a major road closure is largely impossible? A simple post on social media or sharing the info with local news sites like Dyer's is rather easy. Takes about 5 minutes."<br /><br />How is that going to move the needle at all? Why would it matter that people are pre-informed on a temporary closure of one block of a street? People approach the street and are detoured - it happens literally dozens of times every day across the region without any fanfare or issue. This is so far from a problem I can't believe we're having a discussion about it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-48882167386598397952015-04-12T18:53:13.025-07:002015-04-12T18:53:13.025-07:00I was there this weekend. We parked on the north s...I was there this weekend. We parked on the north side of the Capital Crescent Garage, and took the elevator up. We walked along the pedestrian "path" on Woodmont to Bethesda Ave, which had barrels blocking it. So I guess they intended for it to be closed to pedestrians but didn't close off the door from the garage elevator to the street.<br /><br />Getting back was the problem. They wouldn't let us walk back to that elevator. It was suggested we try the vehicle entrance to the garage, on Bethesda Ave. However, the sidewalk by that entrance is _also_ closed, so there was no safe, legal way to enter the North side of the garage.<br /><br />If they need to close roads for events like this, they should announce it in advance. It's not like crane installation plans occur overnight. There is planning involved, so part of those plans should be to inform the public.<br /><br />Wasn't there supposed to be some type of signage as part of the new county law, that lists sidewalk closures and who to call to complain?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-48305317694579130732015-04-12T18:39:21.477-07:002015-04-12T18:39:21.477-07:00Explain how is said that? (5:17)
Does advanced no...Explain how is said that? (5:17)<br /><br />Does advanced notice make it any different for disabled access or likelihood of injury?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com