tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post7922115053898846369..comments2024-03-29T02:53:45.372-07:00Comments on Robert Dyer @ Bethesda Row: Macedonia Baptist Church members kicked out of MoCo Executive's office during Westbard cemetery protest (Video+Photos)Robert Dyerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-53471344942209797122017-05-02T05:27:53.764-07:002017-05-02T05:27:53.764-07:00Did you ask him?Did you ask him?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-34390265308224843892017-04-28T15:36:54.377-07:002017-04-28T15:36:54.377-07:00The planning board reports to the County Council, ...The planning board reports to the County Council, not to Ike Leggett. The council appoints planning board members, not Leggett. <br /><br />Oh, and the council approves master plans, not Leggett... He couldn't even veto a master plan if he wanted to.<br /><br />And Leggett, our first black county executive, offered to have a mediator intervene. <br /><br />By the way, Leggett isn't running again, how was he in the community recently asking for votes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-88900916616366665472017-04-27T14:12:22.670-07:002017-04-27T14:12:22.670-07:00"I've heard that HOC built houses on top ..."I've heard that HOC built houses on top of graves in Tobytown."<br /><br />I'm sure Dyer has "heard" a lot of things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-72751619772912247532017-04-27T07:22:55.626-07:002017-04-27T07:22:55.626-07:006:41: "No financial conflict of interest?&quo...6:41: "No financial conflict of interest?" Montgomery County is buying the property from Regency Centers!<br /><br />6:55: You'll have to ask the County Council why they've neglected all of those communities for so long. They just learned the HOC (coincidentally one of the partners that wants to build a garage on graves) had poorly maintained the cemetery they were responsible for at Tobytown - by watching a video. Maybe we need councilmembers who don't need to watch a video to know where historic black cemeteries are in the County, and keep track of the things they're supposed to have oversight of.<br /><br />I've heard that HOC built houses on top of graves in Tobytown. If true, it again underlines the institutional racism in Montgomery County government. One of the last vestiges of the Confederate legacy in Montgomery County our elected officials thought they could absolve themselves of by moving a statue. The video above proves it's a systemic problem.Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-57267249252525781602017-04-27T06:55:16.562-07:002017-04-27T06:55:16.562-07:00Will Lyttonsville get a "museum"? Will K...Will Lyttonsville get a "museum"? Will Ken-Gar? Hawkins Lane? Scotland? Tobytown? Spencerville?<br /><br />What makes Westbard so extra-special?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-42280137924233469382017-04-27T06:41:53.539-07:002017-04-27T06:41:53.539-07:00There is no financial conflict of interest. The co...There is no financial conflict of interest. The county offered to set up a mediator and the developer will do the investigation. These people are just butt-hurt that they won't get the museum at tax payer dime.... a museum is another reason to not get a real job. Looking at some of them and they way they speak, it's clear that besides preaching and protesting, there's little left for them to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-57425435574619277022017-04-27T06:15:46.694-07:002017-04-27T06:15:46.694-07:006:01: There was an even split between black and wh...6:01: There was an even split between black and white protesters, and one Asian protester. What dimension are you in where it was "white protesters?"<br /><br />Nobody could "gang up" on the executive, as he was not in the room at the time. You apparently have the same poor self-awareness about racial subtexts as your buddies on the County Council do.Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-31913876373317211402017-04-27T06:01:51.319-07:002017-04-27T06:01:51.319-07:00White protesters ganging up on our black county ex...White protesters ganging up on our black county executive. Sounds like a lynching. I'm glad our police were able to stop it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-3414055593049225882017-04-27T04:47:47.782-07:002017-04-27T04:47:47.782-07:002:49: While a public-private partnership is not un...2:49: While a public-private partnership is not unusual in itself, it remains an indisputable fact that the County has a financial conflict of interest regarding this property.Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-30172259428688076122017-04-27T02:49:06.207-07:002017-04-27T02:49:06.207-07:00It is not a conflict of interest. Counties partner...It is not a conflict of interest. Counties partner with developers all the time. Public private partnerships are standard. Keep grasping Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-81351453328309571882017-04-27T02:34:28.583-07:002017-04-27T02:34:28.583-07:009:28: The dispute was over more than simply paymen...9:28: The dispute was over more than simply payment. The Planning Department sought to make a gag order on the anthropologists a part of the contract. All information that would have come out during the investigation would have been through the developer and the County government. To have a legitimate process, the church and community need to have the same information in real time that the developer does.<br /><br />Remember, the County is a partner with the developer on this particular site. That is a conflict of interest. If remains are found on the site, that is to the disadvantage of both the County and Regency Centers. So Montgomery County government is not an honest broker in this dispute, and we're likely to learn more about their double-dealing on this matter as the Westbard lawsuit proceeds.<br /><br />Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-36651760947853794272017-04-26T21:28:38.112-07:002017-04-26T21:28:38.112-07:00Didn't the County try to get a indepedent expe...Didn't the County try to get a indepedent expert to evaluate this, but couldn't come to an agreement with the expert over payment?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-9449638384543124962017-04-26T20:34:09.426-07:002017-04-26T20:34:09.426-07:007:05 PM You're just saying that because they&#...7:05 PM You're just saying that because they're black, right? Not worthy of respect in your eyes, right?<br /><br />I mean, if this was the Berliner family plot, I doubt the Council and Planning Board would just say these are a bunch of old "bones" to be discarded.<br /><br />You're a bigot.Timnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-72956936727266124022017-04-26T19:05:52.957-07:002017-04-26T19:05:52.957-07:00Why can't these so called activists buy the la...Why can't these so called activists buy the land back themselves? To above commenter: of the bones are there, they'll be relocated. Get a life. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-25916363378373397182017-04-26T19:01:49.240-07:002017-04-26T19:01:49.240-07:00I'm sick of this. Why can't the Council an...I'm sick of this. Why can't the Council and Planning Board bring relief to these folks who don't want to see their relatives buried under a concrete garage for eternity?Roaldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-17661230772278450542017-04-26T16:46:21.478-07:002017-04-26T16:46:21.478-07:00Roald @ 8:10 AM - What exactly distinguishes a &qu...Roald @ 8:10 AM - What exactly distinguishes a "historic" cemetery from a "non-historic" one?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-1813265417892889972017-04-26T16:18:05.596-07:002017-04-26T16:18:05.596-07:00@ 2:26 PM - Six residents, in a county of one mill...@ 2:26 PM - Six residents, in a county of one million, are not "the people". They are a special interest group.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-40221331554593783172017-04-26T15:40:20.829-07:002017-04-26T15:40:20.829-07:00This poor developer. What a bunch of idiots. If th...This poor developer. What a bunch of idiots. If they find bones, they'll move them. Get over yourselves. You're not Martin Luther King, Jr.. dream on! This church stands to profit from the silly museum they are demanding. Pay for it yourselves. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-67331415845114524962017-04-26T14:26:44.831-07:002017-04-26T14:26:44.831-07:002:12 PM You do understand that these "governm...2:12 PM You do understand that these "government officials" work for residents, not the other way around?<br /><br />In terms of #3, I don't think the Council would hesitate to take extreme measures if protesters try and physically stop the desecration of their family's final resting place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-74082775123940771472017-04-26T14:12:05.094-07:002017-04-26T14:12:05.094-07:0012:36 AM - Your comparison to "Martin Luther ...12:36 AM - Your comparison to "Martin Luther King and his famous march on Selma" is utterly ridiculous, and insulting to the Selma marchers, for several reasons:<br /><br />1) Ike Leggett is black whereas most of the protesters (as shown in Robert Dyer's photos) are white.<br /><br />2) The protesters in Selma were peacefully marching through the streets, not invading a government official's office.<br /><br />3) The protesters in Selma were met with billy-clubs, vicious police dogs, fire hoses and fire bombs. The protesters in Rockville were met with... words and stares.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-86279651403194680952017-04-26T12:48:42.626-07:002017-04-26T12:48:42.626-07:00My sense is that the developer will do a cursory s...My sense is that the developer will do a cursory study, say they found nothing and move ahead desecrating the cemetery.<br /><br />Their PR firm will try to put the fires out meanwhile and hope everyone forgets.<br /><br />The original sin of Westbard happens a second time...<br />Roaldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-68664728705027006582017-04-26T12:47:25.062-07:002017-04-26T12:47:25.062-07:00@6:56 AM: The issue is that the cemetery study doe...@6:56 AM: The issue is that the cemetery study does not have a work plan and monitoring by an independent expert acceptable to the church. The church wants assurance that the study will be done correctly. Without an independent expert involved, the church is concerned that the study will be incomplete and biased. <br /><br />Why doesn't the Planning Department want to involve an independent expert? Maybe something is being hidden?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-186939458482969222017-04-26T12:40:18.052-07:002017-04-26T12:40:18.052-07:0012:19 PM: No one opposes placing affordable housin...12:19 PM: No one opposes placing affordable housing on the Westbard site. 15% of the residential units are being reserved for affordable housing-- that's above the County's typical 2.5% requirement. That's a good thing. Ignoring an African-American cemetery site is not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-14377578526940547882017-04-26T12:36:03.003-07:002017-04-26T12:36:03.003-07:00I would think that Regency Centers, Equity One and...I would think that Regency Centers, Equity One and the County planners would want an unimpeachable study of the cemetery acceptable to Macedonia Baptist Church. Perhaps they fear that such a study would delay and/or alter the development plan. <br /><br />I understand the developers would take such a stance. But County planners should be more objective. The handling of the cemetery investigation by the planners shows that they represent developers-- not County residents.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-76838488048786814452017-04-26T12:27:09.250-07:002017-04-26T12:27:09.250-07:00I live about a mile from the cemetery site. I cann...I live about a mile from the cemetery site. I cannot believe that a church concerned about the resting places of the ancestors of its congregants is being treated so badly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com