tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post8706458670555319301..comments2024-03-29T04:57:59.779-07:00Comments on Robert Dyer @ Bethesda Row: Montrose Parkway extension would reduce congestion, increase Pike access in Pike District (Photos)Robert Dyerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-5115661000362217002015-07-25T06:54:52.727-07:002015-07-25T06:54:52.727-07:00PSS...and at one time they wanted it to go up Park...PSS...and at one time they wanted it to go up Parkland Drive, and I am sure the residents are happy that this will not happen. I guess that was the alternative to Matthew Henson----It will never switch back to Matthew Henson!!! Never!!!! This whole thing is a boondoggle. If it gets built, people will look at it in years to come and say WTF? Is this what we want? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-70191412571666193462015-07-25T06:44:22.040-07:002015-07-25T06:44:22.040-07:00PS---5:51---Yes, and somehow I feel like Dyer is n...PS---5:51---Yes, and somehow I feel like Dyer is not the only one who thinks that a road can be a possibility in the future. Matthew Henson State Park was established in 1989--and the 'powers that be' have pushed plans all along since then to build this parkway and have it end at Veirs Mill---there must have been some people who never took that park as seriously as they should have---or else why would they have traffic just dumped on Veirs Mill? I suppose some money changed hands over the years, and some people just never cared where it went to, or where it went through, or anything about it, as long as thier objectives were filled. Seems to me that there are some hidden formulas in this history,(I am not a conspiracy person)and they don't end with traffic projection statistics. This is a big project---for 1.5 miles. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-75829333629888489302015-07-25T06:28:57.639-07:002015-07-25T06:28:57.639-07:00Exactly, 10:16. Why? The whole thing was/is over-e...Exactly, 10:16. Why? The whole thing was/is over-engineered and they insist on continuing its model because it was designed way to far in advance. They have a thick book of architectural drawings on this now that really should be used for lining all of North Bethesda's birdcages. <br /><br />The bus trips you mention Dyer,'Aspen Hill to White Flint, or Wheaton/Glenmont to White Flint, or Park Potomac to White Flint or Glenmont. Or MTA bus from Pike District to Columbia or Laurel'---These are in your Rockville Facility Dream Scenario, and even then it's a stretch---and that carved out road plan is NOT going to happen!!!!!!! The MPE plans that stand now do not do much for bus improvements,as it covers only a short distance--- and I take the bus, my whole family takes the bus, and we will get by fine WITHOUT this parkway. There are plenty of ways to improve bus service without building roads. --And please stop speaking for the residents. Edgar Gonzalez (the Moco project rep at the time) did this at the planning board meeting in 2013 regarding an interchange vs. an intersection. It's offensive, wildly pernicious, condescending and self-serving. <br /><br />Part of the problem is that there are not enough residents speaking up. When that happens,people fill in the void that they create with spun tales and manipulations. <br /><br />I have unofficially renamed this parkway "Hinkey Highway". Meaning something is not right. Something smells rotten in the state of Maryland, and it's "business as usual". Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-82439292082794167362015-07-25T05:51:41.484-07:002015-07-25T05:51:41.484-07:00@ 9:30 PM - it's called "Matthew Henson P...@ 9:30 PM - it's called "Matthew Henson Park", not "Matthew Henson Highway Facility".<br /><br />Dunce.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-88049956015633983192015-07-24T22:16:55.459-07:002015-07-24T22:16:55.459-07:00I was a big supporter and had high hopes for the w...I was a big supporter and had high hopes for the western segment of the Montrose Parkway when it opened, but has been a disappointment. Lots of traffic signals, not synchronized, a poor interchange with 355. The old Montrose Road connection between 270 and 355 was just about as good. Why spend all that money and destroy a park just for 5 minutes of drive time?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-42940231385567705402015-07-24T21:30:56.312-07:002015-07-24T21:30:56.312-07:003:59: It's not parkland, it's a highway fa...3:59: It's not parkland, it's a highway facility. As for developer profit, the entire Rockville Facility corridor is already fully developed. The problem is, they never built the road that was supposed to support that development. Now they're going to add thousands and thousands more units - and don't need to build the road out to the ICC to do it! This is something that would benefit residents, not developers, countywide.<br /><br />Bethesdans don't laugh at me, they read my blog. There's nothing funny about having the nation's worst traffic congestion.Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-35771847117572425042015-07-24T15:59:56.216-07:002015-07-24T15:59:56.216-07:00Dyer thinks that a mile-long sidewalk, or a couple...Dyer thinks that a mile-long sidewalk, or a couple of new townhouses on private land, is worse than a 10-mile long freeway through parkland.<br /><br />Dyer thinks that new sidewalks are "purely for private developer profit", but freeways are not.<br /><br />Dyer thinks that a freeway that only he wants is somehow "planned", and that the sidewalk which had been discussed for decades, is somehow "not planned".<br /><br />Dyer is funny. Bethesdans laugh at him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-534312431832012352015-07-24T15:23:55.985-07:002015-07-24T15:23:55.985-07:008:00: I agree that sound barriers should be funded...8:00: I agree that sound barriers should be funded for this project. Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-15897474189697146302015-07-24T15:21:24.147-07:002015-07-24T15:21:24.147-07:003:03: I'm talking about longer range trips lik...3:03: I'm talking about longer range trips like Aspen Hill to White Flint, or Wheaton/Glenmont to White Flint, or Park Potomac to White Flint or Glenmont. Or MTA bus from Pike District to Columbia or Laurel.Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-24450154712742833882015-07-24T15:17:53.399-07:002015-07-24T15:17:53.399-07:002:30: Yes, and let's not forget the Ride On bu...2:30: Yes, and let's not forget the Ride On buses that burst into flames! Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-83556504206051412192015-07-24T15:16:46.181-07:002015-07-24T15:16:46.181-07:00blennerhassett, the BRT study showed traffic flow ...blennerhassett, the BRT study showed traffic flow on the future M-83 would not require dedicated lanes for BRT. Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-34887085816680678162015-07-24T15:14:35.486-07:002015-07-24T15:14:35.486-07:00True, Steve. I haven't heard of anyone chainin...True, Steve. I haven't heard of anyone chaining themselves to the trees coming down for the townhomes in Grosvenor or Little Falls Stream Valley Park, or along the Green Mile for the road, er, "shared use path" behind the Chevy Chase Club, or many other examples of deforestation that - unlike the Rockville Facility - were either unplanned or purely for private developer profit. The trees in Caroline Freeland Park are next. #SaveTheTrees!Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-54893059593560622302015-07-24T15:03:24.556-07:002015-07-24T15:03:24.556-07:00Montrose Parkway improve bus service? Montrose Par...Montrose Parkway improve bus service? Montrose Parkway East will only go to Veirs Mill, a paltry 1.5 miles from Parklawn. 1.5 miles!!!!!!!!!A horrible interchange and expensive road that bulldozes a part of Rock Creek Park----for 1.5 miles!!!!! I walk it all the time because it's only 1.5 miles!!!!!!!! If I take a bus it takes 2 minutes. That sure does justify a project like this. TWO minutes and 1.5 miles!!!!!! Some bus gridlock we have here. Oh, I forgot. In twenty years it will take 3 minutes if we don't build the parkway!!!!!! My bad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-75549233888215321442015-07-24T14:30:22.802-07:002015-07-24T14:30:22.802-07:00Ride On fleet currently is not that great. I'v...Ride On fleet currently is not that great. I've been on Ride On buses that have broken down on 355. Not modern at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-29491751291106939542015-07-24T14:03:36.486-07:002015-07-24T14:03:36.486-07:00The only way to improve bus service is dedicated l...The only way to improve bus service is dedicated lanes. blennerhassetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04810666233482946813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-61030821162597951392015-07-24T13:34:22.048-07:002015-07-24T13:34:22.048-07:00Ironic to see people suddenly concerned about pres...Ironic to see people suddenly concerned about preserving parks when they ridicule Chevy Chase for trying to preserve the Capital Crescent Trail.Steve D.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-65215911077013126382015-07-24T12:09:03.924-07:002015-07-24T12:09:03.924-07:00Upgrade the Ride-On fleet? I find the buses pretty...Upgrade the Ride-On fleet? I find the buses pretty nice and I take them a few times a month. Why do they need upgrading?<br /><br />If you mean upgrade the routes, I agree -- expand service and increase operating hours.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-33430901918771325882015-07-24T11:43:06.573-07:002015-07-24T11:43:06.573-07:009:52: I support both Metro and Ride On. It would b...9:52: I support both Metro and Ride On. It would be nice if we could spend the BRT money on 8-car Metro trains and updating the Ride On fleet. Also, roads like Montrose Parkway and M-83 will allow improved bus service, so there is a transit (and a bike) benefit with the added capacity and bike path.Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-20596908214140233802015-07-24T11:36:53.757-07:002015-07-24T11:36:53.757-07:009:17: Keep in mind that those were set aside as hi...9:17: Keep in mind that those were set aside as highway facilities, not parks. That was how they were created originally. And these plans were designed to handle the traffic volumes from the development already approved and built through the 1980s. So it's no surprise that we have total gridlock, with an incomplete highway system. Robert Dyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01975969463714952623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-86586089875483595512015-07-24T09:52:47.109-07:002015-07-24T09:52:47.109-07:00Bob is disappointed that only 9 out of 10 people d...Bob is disappointed that only 9 out of 10 people drive. Let's put an end to transportation welfare programs like Metro and Ride-On!blennerhassetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04810666233482946813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-18685848708690350832015-07-24T09:36:46.160-07:002015-07-24T09:36:46.160-07:00Yes, he has become granite and asphalt incarnate. ...Yes, he has become granite and asphalt incarnate. Incarnation Bob. Unfortunately, not unlike many others. <br />The Planning Board Meeting can be found on the Moco Planning Board website for anyone interested. It is March 21, 2013 under past meetings, and it is toward the middle of the day's agenda. I think it gives a good idea of the process. I rolled my eyes more than a few times. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-88097656452901093962015-07-24T09:17:14.950-07:002015-07-24T09:17:14.950-07:00"They did not all of a sudden switch their mi..."They did not all of a sudden switch their mindset because of your testimony about continuing MPE past Veirs Mill."<br /><br />Remember that you're dealing with someone who wants to build a six-lane freeway through Sligo Creek Parkway and Wheaton Regional Park, as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-2638873395819527002015-07-24T09:11:12.396-07:002015-07-24T09:11:12.396-07:00PS, and yes, the paths to the Pike will be nice to...PS, and yes, the paths to the Pike will be nice too, as far as the middle section goes. As long as bikers respect the people they share the mixed use with.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-61823345860237922722015-07-24T08:47:30.406-07:002015-07-24T08:47:30.406-07:00Gee, Dyer you are really focused on cars cars cars...Gee, Dyer you are really focused on cars cars cars. Show us this "loophole". I highly doubt that you can ever find a shovel big enough to cut through it if there is one. I have spoken to officials about road building east of Veirs Mill, and they say it will never happen. The Trees and Wildlife of Rock Creek Park and Matthew Henson State Park want to give you a message, and it's not pretty. <br />You have conveniently ignored all the other concerns regarding the hot rights and perils of the interchange. It's not just the developers who would rather see an intersection rather than an interchange. I am from NYC and I grew up with intersections---it is a CITY thing. I would have hated crossing on-ramps when I was a kid,instead of a regular intersection. Both are not perfect of course, but at least some progressive signal action can be done with an intersection. Not the case with HOT RIGHTS on a ramp! I love the way you blame or praise certain parties, all whilst trying to manipulate the reader or listener into your world. If you think the planning board changed their tune in 2013 because of your presentation, think again. They KNEW how they were going to vote beforehand. They did not all of a sudden switch their mindset because of your testimony about continuing MPE past Veirs Mill. They used your shtick as a way to take the responsibility of approving this asphalt hydra off of them ( by accepting a 'reasonable'excuse', that being future road plans that would extend it) and then they RUBBER STAMPED it. Casey Anderson was the ONLY voice of reason.If you remember, a few members of the board did not even know about important details of the plans!How 4 people could further a serious project like this is mind boggling. You claim to be for affordable housing, but you don't seem to have any compassion for what people from affordable housing do---WALK to the stores, etc. This interchange is a disaster-----the last leg of Montrose Parkway East is a disaster, as it will only lead to Veirs Mill, essentially a road to nowhere, and it will cause a dump of traffic.If a dump of traffic is to be made, just do it on PARKLAWN and forget the interchange and last leg. I live here and I can deal with that.Maybe you want to see this area with roads all above you, so be it. But don't start wanting to rip OTHER people's neighborhoods up for your Rockville Facility pipe dreams.It will never happen. The only reason this has come so far is due to patchwork politics; it was about whose hands could be washed at any given time, and who could continue their job.Yes, the concerns for the RR crossing also, but Randolph will still be open, so the only thing MPE will solve is that someone has the option to not cross over them in a car, and taking a bit of the load off Randolph. And to see someone lobby for destroying an existing park for roads, well, it's just very sad. Mass transit, walking and biking is the future here, but with this design, you will never guess it. Our next hope is to find some endangered organism in Rock Creek.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28521945.post-59912805553197962242015-07-24T08:36:26.707-07:002015-07-24T08:36:26.707-07:00I don't understand how building a highway that...I don't understand how building a highway that dead-ends at Veirs Mill is supposedly going to reduce traffic in the slightest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com