Wednesday, May 17, 2017

More MoCo Planning Department shenanigans on Marriott HQ project

The agenda for the
Development Review Committee
...until it's not
I have to laugh when I hear the candidates for the Montgomery County Planning Board refer to finding new ways to improve outreach in the planning process. Because I certainly wasn't laughing yesterday morning, when I attempted to exercise my right of public participation in the planning process for the Marriott headquarters and hotel megaproject. The meeting was scheduled to begin at 9:30 AM, gas is not free, and neither is the lowdown dirty set-up of forcing citizens to pay to participate in the planning process, by having metered parking at the planning HQ. When I got there at 9:30, the conference room was dark and empty.

What's going on here? I had double-checked the agenda online before leaving. Not only was there supposed to be a meeting, but Marriott was first on the agenda, as it had been for weeks.

Well, it turns out that a double whammy was pulled.

First, the meeting time was moved back to 10:00 AM. Well, that was just wrong, moving a standard meeting time 30 minutes later. But, wait - there's more! Marriott is now last on the agenda, and will be going on at 11:30 AM. The same time as the Macedonia Baptist Church protest at the Montgomery County Council Building in Rockville, and there's absolutely no question that I am going to be there.

I waited as long as I could, but nope, things dragged out just long enough. As I pulled out of the overpriced parking lot, where I had wasted several dollars parking for nothing, I could see the Marriott team heading toward the building. Whatever information I as a Bethesda resident had a right to learn about the Marriott project, and share with you, my fellow Bethesda residents on this blog, remains top secret. No apologies - if you wasted gas and time driving here for the Marriott review, well, too bad.

That is not an open process.

The department is fully aware of the high interest in this major project. Such a meeting should not be altered in time at the last minute. And it most certainly should not be altered without updating ALL of the agendas posted online. Check out this agenda - it's still online (until they take it down).

While it was stated that Marriott was expected to go overtime - too bad! The Planning Board does the same thing to us, the taxpayers, all the time. They use the parking meters as leverage, in fact. Numerous times, even when there is a big crowd there to testify, they have moved an agenda item to the end. This guarantees your meter is going to run out. Do you run out to put more quarters in, and miss being called to speak? Or just get a ticket? Ridiculous!

Yet, we are often forced to sit there, hour after hour through updates about plans and other irrelevant topics. Why can the developers not sit there, too, if Marriott runs over? Why is there anything else on the agenda with Marriott to begin with, if it is so complicated? The issues for the two projects that took Marriott's place were so minor, it was a waste of those applicants' time to haul them in there yesterday.

Once again, the department shows a shocking lack of respect for the citizens who are making an effort to participate in the process. If there is an important agenda item of great interest to the community, that item should be first, out of courtesy to the residents. And the time of the meeting itself certainly should not be changed.

What is going on here? "Find new ways?" How about respecting the time of the people who pay the salaries and keep the lights on at Planning HQ, and hold the meetings we have now when they are scheduled to be held?

112 comments:

  1. Anonymous10:39 AM

    640 words.

    Shorter version: "Waaah!"

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    1. Anonymous11:38 AM

      I LOL'd at this comment.

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    2. 10:39: Good to know they count something besides money at planning headquarters - now if you can just figure out how to hold meetings in a professional manner...

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  2. Anonymous10:50 AM

    TLDR; Something came up, meeting time changed.

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  3. Anonymous10:55 AM

    Wow, so much whining and so many inaccuracies:

    A) The DRC is not part of the Planning Department
    B) Complaining that you had to pay for parking in downtown Silver Spring. Are you serious?
    C) All of the plans for Marriott and other projects are available online. Nobody's hiding anything. In any case this is a very informal "Concept Plan." Sketch, preliminary, and site plans can't even be approved until the Sector Plan and Overlay Zone are actually passed.

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    1. 10:55:
      A) It absolutely is part of the Planning Department and planning process. The agendas are on the Planning website, and they meet at the Planning headquarters.

      B) It's a tax on participation, just like at the Council Building, whether you like it or not.

      C) You obviously haven't been to a DRC meeting. Much of what is discussed is not in any document.

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  4. Anonymous10:56 AM

    As a full time working employee during normal work hours, it is amazing that people have the time to show up to these meetings. Props to Robert for being that person who actually has the free time to attend, for all of us who have to work.

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    1. Anonymous11:38 AM

      I see what you did there and I also find it amusing.

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  5. Anonymous10:58 AM

    "As I pulled out of the overpriced parking lot, where I had wasted several dollars parking for nothing..."

    #CheapskateDyer

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  6. Skippy11:01 AM

    10:56 AM Yes, everyone is busy, including Robert. Exactly why they shouldn't totally change meeting agendas without prior notice. Folks don't have all day to wait, so be transparent about time changes. Makes sense to me.

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  7. Anonymous11:02 AM

    10:56

    That was one of the sassiest, yet kinda funny, terrible pieces of writing I have read on this blog. I get the point you were going for, good point, absolutely atrocious writing.

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  8. Anonymous11:04 AM

    "Whatever information I as a Bethesda resident had a right to learn about the Marriott project, and share with you, my fellow Bethesda residents on this blog, remains top secret."

    No one else attended?

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  9. Anonymous11:12 AM

    If Robert is a full time journalist, wouldn't/shouldn't he just suck it up, pay the parking for an extra hour, then whine and bitch after getting the scoop? It sucks, but every job has had this happen before where a client is not fully prepared and it takes longer than necessary. Also, the change may have been very sudden and they did not have time to post notice. I am not saying it was justified, but how do you know it was the council's fault when it could very well have been Mariott's fault? Mariott may have had something come up and had to postpone. That makes more sense as to why they would push it to the end for their sake, not for the council trying to run out people's meters.

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    1. 11:12: It was known from the beginning that Marriott would take time. All the more reason to start on time at 9:30 with Marriott. If they didn't want to, don't put an agenda out with misleading information. Be professional about it. This isn't the high school drama club meeting after school.

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  10. Anonymous11:12 AM

    It's perfectly normal to move the meeting agenda item which is expected to generate the most discussion, towards the end of the agenda. This is done so that people coming for the other items aren't forced to sit through the longer discussion of the main agenda item.

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    1. 11:12: I explain in the article why that wasn't a valid excuse in this case, where there is great public interest in a major project. Big public interest = first on the agenda, not last. Respect the only people in the room who aren't getting paid to be there.

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  11. Anonymous11:14 AM

    Too bad that Robert Dyer does not have a fellow staff reporter, so that one could have attended the meeting in Silver Spring and the other could attend the meeting in Rockville.

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  12. Anonymous11:18 AM

    I would be Dyer's assistant if he was looking for one. But I don't know what the hourly rate is, or if I would be stuck being an unpaid intern.

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    1. 11:18: "Unpaid intern?" You must be thinking of the small and slightly-failing magazine.

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    2. Anonymous1:32 PM

      How is it not defamation to call them slightly failing?

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  13. Anonymous11:23 AM

    Robert can't handle anything. What a cry baby. Time changed. Get over it.

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  14. Anonymous11:31 AM

    In Robert's defense, it is annoying showing up and being unaware of the time change. Not worth writing a "news" article on, but annoying still.

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  15. Anonymous11:34 AM

    For those who didn't read the diatribe, so absolute gems below:

    "I certainly wasn't laughing yesterday morning, when I attempted to exercise my right of public participation"

    "...lowdown dirty set-up of forcing citizens to pay to participate in the planning process, by having metered parking"

    "a double whammy was pulled"

    "I pulled out of the overpriced parking lot, where I had wasted several dollars parking"

    "...Marriott was expected to go overtime - too bad!"

    "They use the parking meters as leverage, in fact...This guarantees your meter is going to run out"

    "updates about plans and other irrelevant topics"
    [Why they would talk about "irrelevant topics" like "plans" at a planning meeting]

    Remember, this is someone who wants to run for public office in Montgomery County. He might be surprised to know the electorate here doesn't mirror that which elected the incompetent clown that we have for president (at least until he's impeached this summer).

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    1. 11:34: I'm sorry my writing wasn't down at your 3rd Grade reading level. Here's a guy who thinks Trump will be impeached this summer calling me a clown. Hysterical. If you took me on in a debate on county issues, I'd wipe the floor with you.

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  16. Anonymous11:34 AM

    Definitely agree that it is annoying, but Robert's expression of this is ridiculous (AS WITH MOST THINGS).

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  17. Anonymous12:12 PM

    I would take you in a battle of fisticuffs my good sir.

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    1. 12:12: I guess that's why you hide at all the public meetings you claim to be stalking me at, girly man? Shouldn't you be picking up Hans Riemer's dry cleaning, tool?

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  18. Anonymous12:18 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADHa-KnepYg

    Watching you attempt to pour a beer and hold it steady, i highly doubt you could beat anyone in a fight. You would get your asked kicked.

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    1. With opponent analysis like that, I understand why you always hide at the meetings. Hope you can fight better than you spell, Muscle Man.

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  19. Anonymous12:29 PM

    If Dyer and the troll both knocked each other out, I would be so happy.

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  20. Anonymous12:54 PM

    Robert, you need an Uber account!

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  21. Anonymous1:03 PM

    Dyer, from your account, it sounds like you were the only attendee there when you arrived at 9:30. Looks like you were the only attendee who didn't know about the time change. Duh...

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  22. Anonymous1:05 PM

    Duh, the council purposefully switched the time knowing Robert would have just enough change to pay for just the amount of time they would require to push back the Marriot meeting. The orders came from Hans himself...

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  23. Anonymous1:11 PM

    The MoCo Machine has been waiting for this moment, ever since they moved the Planning Commission to Silver Spring.

    MWAHAHAHA

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  24. Anonymous1:20 PM

    Serious question,

    I moved to Bethesda recently and I live in downtown Bethesda. Is Westbard and Bethesda? It seems to me that Westbard is not Bethesda, but I could be wrong.

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  25. Anonymous1:36 PM

    http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/defamation-law-made-simple-29718.html

    I think Robert isn't enough of a player for them to bother with it to be honest.

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  26. All of the personal attacks above show the bile and hate that surfaces if a journalist doesn't follow the talking points of the MoCo political power structure (Council & Planning Board).

    Deeply embarrassing for the "anonymous" commenter.

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  27. Anonymous3:00 PM

    I work in Bethesda & own a home in Bethesda so I began following this blog because I welcomed reading an independant journalist. The writer is a joke & his arguments with his "anonymous" alter ego are ridiculous. He is unprofessional & a drama queen trying to create a story where there isnt one. Robert, go volunteer in this community you claim to serve. Find a useful purpose or simply stfu. I've unfolowed the blog, reported it to FB, & blasted a message to our Bethesda list serve. The only story here is this wannabe showing his true colors.

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    1. Anonymous4:29 PM

      Interesting - what was the message to your community list serve?

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    2. 3:00: You're the joke. I've been volunteering for 20 years. You know nothing about me.

      You did not post anything on a neighborhood listserv, because you'd be seen as a raving lunatic or developer stooge by all of your neighbors, whose opinions about development and planning align precisely with mine.

      You would also be facing a defamation lawsuit for posting false and defamatory statements about me.

      I realize your frustration as an impotent Guy Friday for the political machine, but the average resident is squarely in my corner, and wants to know the truth of what's going on in Montgomery County. They're certainly not saluting developers and the Planning Department for a job well done. Just check the results of the term limits vote. Ouch.

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  28. Anonymous3:04 PM

    Lol they moved it on purpose: piss off dyer!!

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  29. 3:00 PM "trying to create a story where there isnt one"
    In other words, you're asking Dyer to stand down and not cover certain stories, like the on-going Westbard planning disaster? Dyer is serving the community well with his reporting and activism on these issues.

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  30. Barwood Sucks3:08 PM

    Notice how tough and threatening "anonymous" is online, but when he's at community meeting with Dyer, he can only watch Dyer from the sidelines and never speak?

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  31. Anonymous3:27 PM

    Notice how "Tim" and "Barwood Sucks" posted their comments just 2 minutes apart?

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  32. Luis Montero3:36 PM

    For as much good as robert does, he just writes in a way that makes me disregard his work. This article would have been fine if he reported on what happened, but didn't divulge into how the council tried to set it up so he could not attend. He can disagree with the council, he can slant his writing to show he disagrees in a professional way. But he does not do it in a professional way, hence why I choose to disregard what he writes. I only still come here for the comment section and the simple opening and closings.

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  33. Anonymous4:26 PM

    1. The Development Review Committee is an inter-agency body that evaluates development applications and approves or revises the proposed design. The Planning Department participates in the DRC, coordinates its work and implements its recommendations. It is entirely reasonable and accurate to criticize the Planning Department for poor scheduling or performance of DRC activities.

    2. Yes, schedules occasionally change, but Montgomery County needs to do more, far more, to make the planning and zoning process accessible to residents and taxpayers and to ensure that planning and zoning results reflect the needs and vision of the community. As shown by contentious and disputed planning processes for Westbard, Lyttonsville, Damascus and downtown Bethesda, the process needs an overhaul. I predict that this will be a key issue in the 2018 County elections.

    3. Given the erosion of public trust in the planning process, rescheduling public meetings without notice is the wrong thing to do. We need more transparency surrounding MoCo land use planning, not less.

    I agree with the point that Dyer is making.

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    1. Anonymous3:54 AM

      I completely agree with Dyer's point. But he does it in such a whiny and immature way.

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  34. Anonymous4:30 PM

    @11:12: They couldn't anticipate that the Marriott project would be more complex and sensitive than the other items on the agenda and schedule it last when planning the agenda? C'mon.

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  35. Anonymous4:34 PM

    4:26 PM

    I don't understand why the way you just made it sound, sounded 100 times better than what Robert wrote and more rational. I wish he could take your tone when trying to stress a point. Very well spoken and I better understand where Robert is going with this. Thank you!

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  36. Anonymous4:59 PM

    @1:20 pm: Westbard is part of the Bethesda 20816 zip code. You can confirm this by going online and looking up addresses that are part of or adjacent to the Westbard development site (examples: Westbard Shopping Center, the Residences at Capital Crescent Trail, Westwood Towers.)

    Nearby neighborhoods, including Springfield, Wood Acres, Westmoreland Hills, Sumner, Glen Echo Heights and Tulip Hill are also part of Bethesda. The incorporated town of Somerset lies to the east of Westbard. Chevy Chase, MD is also east of Westbard, and Chevy Chase, DC is southeast of Westbard.

    I'm curious: why doesn't it seem to you that Westbard is part of Bethesda?

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  37. Anonymous5:10 PM

    Bethesda is 20814.

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    1. Keith Van Horn5:16 PM

      5:10pm Bethesda is 20817, 20816, 20814.
      Bethesda is not an incorporated city.

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  38. Anonymous5:10 PM

    He still updates his campaign Facebook?
    https://www.facebook.com/ElectRobertDyer/

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  39. Keith Van Horn5:14 PM

    The unpaid interns need to be educated on which zip codes are part of Bethesda.

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  40. Anonymous5:22 PM

    Original question poser here. I was looking at google maps and it looked like Woodburn was closer than Bethesda to Westbard. I am new to the area and just trying to understand it.

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  41. Anonymous5:23 PM

    Hey complaining asshats, he has a point and it's a good one. These people are overdeveloping, with not thought to infrastructure, and throwing the tax bill to the residents. And you people keep electing them. Congrats.

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  42. Anonymous5:33 PM

    @4:34 pm: It's 4:26 pm writing back. I really appreciate your compliment. Thank you.

    What I've found in reading this blog is that Robert can get over-heated when he discusses politics or expresses his opinion, but that he's accurate about events/facts (at least the ones that I can personally verify).

    FWIW, the Planning Department/Planning Board/County Council permits citizen input on land use issues (we can send written comments or testimony, and give statements for 3 minutes apiece in public hearings), but our views do not appear to be taken seriously. Many people, including myself, are extremely frustrated, and I believe that the Planning Department's/Planning Board's/County Council's handling of land use matters was one of the important elements in the adoption of term limits for the County Council in November 2016. (And it wasn't just a conservative, Republican issue-- you can't get 69% of the vote in MoCo, as term limits did, without Democratic support. FWIW, I vote Democratic.)

    For my part, I am grateful to Robert for covering local planning meetings, including issues of controversy. He is the only one to do this consistently in Montgomery County since the Montgomery Gazette closed down in 2014. Bethesda Beat, the blog of Bethesda Magazine, covers some of the same material, but not as regularly as Robert.

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  43. Anonymous6:14 PM

    @1:20/5:22--
    Your question of "what is Bethesda" is really a good one. I had the same question when I moved here. Here's the scoop, with an assist from Wikipedia:

    Bethesda is a "census-designated place", that is a place where population is concentrated that does not correspond to a unit of local government. We are a local area defined by the U.S. Census Bureau, and we are also an area defined by zip codes/mailing address, predominantly zip codes 20814, 20816 and 20817. 20814 includes downtown Bethesda. 20816 and 20817 are to the west of 20814 and are more suburban. 20815-- the Chevy Chase zip code/area, is east of Bethesda.

    Geographically, Bethesda extends roughly from the DC line to the Capital Beltway on a north-south axis and between Wisconsin Avenue and the Potomac River on an east-west axis. The Westbard's area is southwest of downtown Bethesda. Woodburn is northwest of downtown Bethesda, I believe.

    In terms of governance, Bethesda is part of Montgomery County-- the largest county in Maryland (which is always not helpful in getting Bethesda's concerns recognized.)

    In summary: Odd as it may seem, Bethesda is a collection of neighborhoods originally defined by the Census Bureau and further delineated by zip codes. We are not a governmental unit. Fortunately, we've done OK despite our amorphous status.

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  44. Anonymous6:18 PM

    @5:10: The Bethesda mailing address includes quite a few zip codes, not just 20814. The largest ones are 20814, 20816 and 20817.

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  45. Anonymous6:53 PM

    Thank you for the history lesson, it has been much appreciated. I think I have a decent understanding now!

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  46. Riff Rafferty7:07 PM

    Come on Dyer, I've been to countless zoning, planning, historic review, and other civic meetings in both DC and MD. It's common practice to move agenda items so quicker handled items are completed first out of respect for those people who are actually required to be there. Stop whining and act like you've been there before.

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    1. 7:07: Those items weren't "handled quicker" - they delayed the start of the meeting 30 minutes.

      3:36: This story is the factual account of what happened yesterday. I at no point in the article claimed the meeting was changed because of me. That's your imagination getting the best of you.

      My report definitely #triggered the MoCo political cartel. Their troll can be easily distinguished by touting support for the Planning Department's deception and unprofessionalism regarding this meeting, and dismissal of significant gas and parking costs wasted by a taxpaying citizen as a result.

      No one, no one, without an ulterior motive and/or financial interest would be criticizing someone for shedding light on a corrupt and unprofessional planning process.

      Readers are smart, and capable of realizing this.

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  47. Saul Alinsky3:20 AM

    "dismissal of significant gas and parking costs wasted by a taxpaying citizen as a result."

    1) "Dismissal of significant gas" sounds kinda funny. Did you proofread this?

    2) How much gas did you waste? Silver Spring is only 4-5 miles from where you live. Maybe you need to get a more fuel-efficient car.

    3) How much did you actually spend on parking in Silver Spring?

    4) Do you realize that you can deduct mileage and parking costs as a business expense?

    5) How much did you pay in taxes?

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  48. Anonymous5:06 AM

    Robert is an MPDU dweller. He has no incentive to make or save money.

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  49. Anonymous5:47 AM

    Robert, county meters have this great technology - parking meter apps! You can auto load your meter while you sit in the meeting fuming and steaming. #2017

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  50. Anonymous6:03 AM

    DYER - Did it ever occur to you that Marriot may have cancelled or rescheduled last minute? That's not uncommon. It's how business takes place sometimes. You haven't worked a traditional job in a while, so that may behoove you to stop with the conspiracy theories (lol @ interfering with your Macedonia temper tantrum).

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  51. 5:47: You obviously haven't parked at the planning lot - they're old, metal parking meters. No online payment. #1947

    5:06: I don't live in an MPDU.

    3:54: What's whiny and immature about a factual account of the failure to conduct the planning process in a professional manner, and with respect towards the taxpayers, the only people in the room who being paid to be there? You literally have no public support for your position.

    3:20: Is English your first language? If so, you might have noticed "gas AND parking costs. I realize the construction with "and" could be confusing to a non-native speaker.

    I would estimate the whole debacle probably cost me about $6-7.

    Do you know how many Councilmembers have released their tax returns? Zero. Nobody has any right to examine a private citizen's tax return, or a public official's, either.

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  52. Anonymous6:05 AM

    I think everyone is missing the main point on this and quick to jump on Robert for this. The church was protesting which Robert had promised to attend, yet the Mariott meeting was moved to the same time. Robert could not be at two places at once, hence why he was fuming and angry . That part does get lost in the writing since Robert stresses more he is anti-parking meter and the system is corrupt, than stressing the moving of the meeting was going to cause him to miss other news.

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  53. 6:03: Hard to understand most of that word salad, but I can tell you that it was announced at the meeting that the schedule change was merely because they knew the Marriott review would take longer. They did not say Marriott had anything to do with the decision. But it was know 2 months ago that Marriott would take longer, so changing it at the last second wasn't credible.

    This is the second time YOU have claimed a "conspiracy." I made no such claim in my article. There are plenty of other conspiracies in the County. The only way this was a conspiracy was as a conspiracy to make it as difficult as possible for the civilian to participate in the Marriott project review process. I never claimed it was directed at me personally. I don't think anyone knew I was even going to be there. It's the disrespect toward anyone who wanted to attend that I'm criticizing.

    What is a "Macedonia temper tantrum?"

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  54. Anonymous6:10 AM

    Robert, even if the meters are old and don't use the app, you can still get up and go re-fill. But the point remains - your anger is likely misdirected at the council. My money is on Marriot moving the time due to a conflict or last minute issue. It stinks but it's normal. What if there had been a time conflict all along? Would you call it an anti-Dyer conspiracy?

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  55. 6:10: You're the one who keeps talking about the Council and conspiracy. Neither are mentioned in my article. While I indeed could have refilled the meter yesterday, that wasn't the problem - the problem was changing the time to one beyond which I could remain there.

    On the other hand, as I *did* mention in my article, your advice does not apply during a public hearing, because A) you might get called to speak while out at the parking meter, and B) I might miss important testimony I need to quote in my article the next day.

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  56. Anonymous6:15 AM

    Dyer keeps saying he is going to sue for defamation, but he just called someone an impotent Guy Friday. Also, the only reason I would want to see your tax return is you claim you have employed people, you are a CEO, a business man, yet when I used Montgomery County property finder, I do not see you own any property in Montgomery County. Something just does not add up with your story.

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  57. 6:15: I don't have to tell you anything about my personal finances or property or anything else. You've run legal and illegal background checks on me, which is just plain weird and creepy. You've established that before.

    But you don't sound like much of an expert when you claim that owning a business and hiring people requires you to own property in Montgomery County. You would have to arrest almost every restaurateur in town.

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  58. Anna Van Horn6:29 AM

    The gas and parking are legitimate business expenses and can offset income on a tax return.

    An annoying day indeed, but the good news is it's deductible!


    You can’t hum while holding your nose closed.

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  59. Anna Van Horn6:40 AM

    Pro-Tip: Inventory is considered property, as is a cash register.

    Even if one is renting a fully furnished and equipped restaurant, they would still likely own property.

    In Maryland, if your business does not own property, you still need to register that fact with the state when filing the annual personal property return.


    Spiked dog collars were invented in Ancient Greece to protect dogs throats from wolves!

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  60. Anonymous6:41 AM

    I never said it was illegal to own a business and not live in the county, its more you have claimed to have always lived in the county as a lifelong resident. Hence the assumption you live here. You also have claimed in the past to have employed people and you make a profit. Hence why I would assume you have made money to be able to afford to either own property. If you rent out an apartment that is fine, many people do when just starting out, but you have run for council multiple times and own a business, so I would assume you own property in the county you reside in. I personally have trouble voting for someone who lives in their parents basement their whole life, which maybe you don't and can prove me wrong, but that perception to me just makes me shudder.

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  61. Anonymous6:50 AM

    "You've run legal and illegal background checks on me, which is just plain weird and creepy."

    Says the guy who refuses to understand why the background check for Yantsos did not show a 14-year-old charge in another state that did not result in a conviction.

    And what "illegal background checks" were conducted against Dyer? The only information I've seen posted here came directly from his candidate's statement, which is public information.

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  62. Rugby7:14 AM

    So weird that the Anonymous nut is obsessed with Dyer's tax returns.
    Why would a journalist like Dyer give a mentally ill stalker his personal info?

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  63. 6:50: Too bad MCPS didn't ever run a legal, or an illegal, background check on Yantsos before putting him in direct contact with kids.

    Things have been posted here that are not on any "candidate statement," that's for sure. Some have been obtained illegally using what private detectives call "pretext." Ask Michael Steele, who was also victimized in that way. The criminal DSCC staffer was rewarded by the party with more plum jobs. What are you getting?

    6:41: You just trashed anybody who rents in Montgomery County! The Coalition for Smarter Growth may move you to the kids' table at their next banquet.

    6:40: Can we hear from "Wrol" now? Or "Betsy?"

    "Dissociative identity disorder is characterized by the presence of two or more distinct or split identities or personality states that continually have power over the person's behavior. It has never been known to be an effective trait when possessed by a political operative trolling Bethesda's leading source for breaking news."

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  64. Westmore7:26 AM

    6:41 AM A lot of people actually prefer renting. All of the luxury rental buildings going up certainly prove that.

    You sound weird...I don't read a story and obsess about whether the writer rents or owns a home. Any idea if the Sentinel or Post reporters own or rent? Never heard that question raised to the Patch and Gazette writers when those sites were operating.

    And the unpaid interns at the magazine certainly don't own luxury properties :)

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    1. Anonymous7:37 AM

      Dyer's newest Sockpuppet.

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  65. 7:44: No, there's been other information illegally obtained that wasn't in a candidate profile. By the way, that Gazette candidate information sheet was illegally printed online by the bankrupt newspaper. It was given to fill out under the false pretext of internal use by reporters. Then they doxed the candidates without permission by posting them online.

    7:26: Seriously! Where reporters at other local media outlets are living, and who's paying for their rent - the troll definitely doesn't want to go there! Talk about a Pandora's box!

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  66. Anna Van Horn8:28 AM

    Wisdom from the Steve Wilkos show:

    The one doing the accusing is usually the one doing the "crime."


    The chances of you dying on the way to get your lottery tickets is greater than your chances of winning.

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  67. Anna Van Horn8:39 AM

    I can't believe you deleted my post defending myself.
    I'll try again.

    You are once again accusing me of being who I am not. How embarrassing for you.

    My post at 6:40AM needs to go to your "collection."
    And add the 6:29 one too. Shows what a horrible person I am and the awful terrible things I post.

    The thing is, Robert, I'm real. I'm not anything you have accused me of being. I'm an educated, professional, long-time county resident and property owner. That's my real name at birth. I'm married. It's different now.

    It's a truth you can't change.

    Only female mosquitoes bite

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    1. Anonymous8:53 AM

      "Anna"- if Dyer's reporting triggers you, you may want to not visit. Just a thought!
      I'm willing to buy you a subscription to Bethesda Magazine. You'll get some of Dyer's news 6 months later in print.

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  68. Someone Tired of All This8:48 AM

    I posted a way to deal with trolls that might work Robert, you proceeded to delete my post.

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  69. 8:48: I had to because your post contained a link that provides my personal contact information to the whole internet. Nothing personal.

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  70. Anna Van Horn9:19 AM

    You're embarrassing yourself 8:53. Thankfully, for you at least, you are cloaked by anonymity.

    Honey, it's my name. Make fun all you want, it's rather Scooby-Dooian, but if it makes you feel better.


    There are two ways to be fooled: One is to believe what isn't so; the other is to refuse to believe what is so

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  71. Anonymous9:24 AM

    What's really funny is Dyer's comment about "multiple personalities" at 7:24 immediately followed by a comment from one of his sockpuppets just 2 minutes later at 7:26.

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  72. Anonymous10:15 AM

    The acronym for "So Tired of All This", is "SToAT". LOL

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  73. Anonymous10:42 AM

    9:24 AM

    If you want more evidence, I (sadly) tried to follow him on twitter (I have unfollowed him a a few days ago) and found at least 4 different accounts... (@bethesdarow, @dyercountyusa, @rockvillenights, @WheatonGlenmont)

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    1. 10:42am Publishers often have different social channels. Patch had one for every different community it covered.

      Makes sense since you can follow the areas that you're interested in.

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    2. 10:42: No kidding, dumbass. Unlike the small and slightly-failing magazine, I have different news websites for each area of the county. People in Rockville don't give a damn what's going on in Silver Spring. That's just one of many reasons I am the leading source of hyperlocal news countywide. Plus, people in Rockville don't want to have to wait a week to find out there's a new restaurant opening in the town center, in a reheated version of my article that doesn't cite me as the source. So they read and follow RockvilleNights.com.

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  74. Anonymous10:51 AM

    "As I pulled out of the overpriced parking lot, where I had wasted several dollars parking for nothing"

    Given that you would have arrived no later than 9:15 am and left no later than 11:00 am, and given that parking is $1.00 per hour in the garages in DTSS, that would mean that you spent no more than $1.75.

    I'm not shedding any tears for you, Mr. Cheapskate.

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    1. 10:51: I understand that, as an impotent Guy Friday for the MoCo cartel, you are fine with having a corrupt planning process. Meanwhile, the rest of us are going to speak out about corruption, and vote your guys out in 2018.

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  75. Anonymous4:40 PM

    Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, there you go again at 2:49PM.

    Please tell us how you know @10:51 is"an impotent Guy Friday for the MoCo cartel". Do your "private analytics" reveal to you this information?

    Your frequent references to potency, "He-Man", "body slams", "Girly-Man" .etc suggests serious unresolved issues with your own sexuality. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

    I am curious why you think you could serve in government having offended: all your likely Council members, the Council President, nearly every County Department, nearly every current elected representative -- MD State House, US Congress - both branches, nearly every State Government Department -- MDOT, several others. The MD Governor.

    You would need at least cordial relations with all of these to get anything done as an elected representative for the County.

    You have not just shot yourself in the foot in terms of a future role as a representative, you have shot a cannon at your own foot.

    Anybody But Dyer -- ABD

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    1. 4:40: Anyone reduced to trolling my website from a dark room day and night, year after year despite the fact that I continue to publish and grow in success, has been proven impotent. Now you are trying to say I'm gay as an insult, in some kind of passive-aggressive display of homophobia and bigotry. Shocking the kind of lowlifes the MoCo cartel employs.

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  76. Anna Van Horn5:11 AM

    Agreed. That and his instinct to humiliate. Or to say things to others that "he" finds humiliating, assuming others will feel the same way and be shamed.

    But, moving on: the MCPS Book Festival is this weekend in Gaithersburg. Nice lineup of authors. Always time well spent.

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  77. Anonymous5:28 AM

    There is still a puddle of congealed tears next to that parking meter where Robert Dyer sacrificed 7 quarters.

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  78. Anonymous5:34 AM

    "People in Rockville don't give a damn what's going on in Silver Spring."

    And judging by the number of readers for RockvilleNutz, they don't care about what's going on in Rockville, either.

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  79. 5:34: I don't know what kind of underground magazine RockvilleNutz is, but I can tell you that Rockville Nights is the most-read source for hyperlocal news in Rockville. You may want to make the switch, so you know what's going on in Rockville.

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  80. Anna Van Horn6:51 AM

    Anna Van Horn said...Robert Dyer deleted. Why? Honest question. How can anyone understand without feedback?

    No one is saying you are or aren't gay. It wouldn't matter one way or the other.

    What 4:40 is saying is that your insults seem to lean towards the "less of a
    man" type taunts.

    So either "you" find them insulting or you think "your nemesis" will find them
    insulting. Or, possibly, you think it will amuse your readers.

    This isn't anything against you, it's just an observation and logic.


    There are more fake flamingos in the world than real ones.

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  81. Anonymous6:51 AM

    Did anyone else see the story about the fourth grader, Samhitha Maramreddy, who will have more political and professional experience than Dyer. This girl gets to be the Mayor of Rockville, why aren't you covering this nice story Robert?

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  82. Anonymous8:24 AM

    This new troll is upbeat. I actually dont mind it.

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  83. Smash8:29 AM

    Robert why cant we be friends?

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  84. Why are there soo many Md haters from Va trolling on this blog......

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  85. Anonymous8:48 AM

    why do you think we are from VA? I'm from Bethesda all my life. I'm just mad that the author has gotten so deluded and chooses to focus on non Bethesda issues on this blog (Westbard). He should spin Westbard off into its own blog and watch the site go back to peace and good discussion.

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    1. 8:48: Westbard always has been part of Bethesda, dumbass. Check with U.S. Post Office and Census Bureau, if you don't believe me.

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  86. Anonymous9:45 AM

    @ 8:48 - Seconded.

    Looking forward to the spinoff of NiMBYTownNutz.

    And MoCoDeadMall, too.

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