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Wednesday, January 02, 2019
Tone on Tone closes in Bethesda
Tone on Tone, a shop specializing in 18th and 19th century Swedish antiques, has closed at 7920 Woodmont Avenue in Bethesda. The space, located in the ground floor of the Landow Building, was cleared out yesterday.
* The guy who posted here claiming he reported Tone on Tone closing first needs to get a life ASAP. If he wants to tout that on his CV, do it on his own site
* Downtown Bethesda doesn't have a premier multi-plex cinema and it is embarrassing. In addition to existing downtowns (Rockville, Silver Spring, etc.) every new development/downtown, from Pike & Rose to The Boro in Tysons has a theater at the heart of the neighborhood. You'd have to believe "Anonymous" here is smarter than Federal Realty, The Meridian Group and other major successful firms that are including theaters.
* Riemer touted his success with the Nightlife Economy and yet the consensus is that downtown Bethesda is "dead" in regards to nightlife. Something doesn't add up.
7:08AM - Embarassing? Really? To whom? I'll bet if you asked 1000 people for one word describing how they feel about downtown Bethesda not having a "premier multi-plex cinema, none would say "embarassed
One thing that hasn't been mentioned...are any of those theaters profitable?
It's incredibly hard to imagine iPic Entertainment (NASDAQ:IPIC) becoming profitable. The company is likely to file for bankruptcy or substantially dilute current shareholders as soon as related party borrowings run out, and they will soon. They missed their last target and currently, trading at under $4/share, are missing their current $9 target.
I'm thinking movie attendance is a lot like print newspapers in that the industry is in permanent and steady decline.
7:40, I believe what 7:22 is saying is that There are several people on this blog that he finds obnoxious and you are most of them.
If you're going to insist that every anonymous comment was made by him, then everyone can just assume that every pro-Dyer comment is made by you, the serial shiller.
@ 7:59 AM - The sad thing is your unending obsession with Hans Riemer. He is one Council member of seven, and the County government certainly does not revolve around him.
Dyer @ 5:14 DST / 8:14 EST on the now-locked Sears post:
We tied last year's total at 21 - a 31% increase over 2016. You left out the latest victim in Rockville, and the body that was found a few weeks ago.
No, I didn't. Those are counted in the total (19). MoCo homicides plunged 10% in 2018. And it's worth reiterating that your "31% increase" translates to 5 homicides. Now to borrow a phrase, let's be clear -- even 1 homicide is 1 too many, but we shouldn't get hysterical. To lend context to this important conversation let's consider the total number of homicides in the county since 2007:
1:03 — If by “reported about” you mean “buried a mention about a ‘rumor’ beneath a bunch of night life- and theater closing-arglebargle”, then yes, I suppose you’re correct.
"1:44 PM is back from holiday break, ready to troll and report news Dyer had days ago with a smattering of county press releases.
"Not exactly the strategy to win a local Edward R. Murrow Award.
Category: "Edward R Murrow Award"
August 30, 2018 http://robertdyer.blogspot.com/2018/08/riemer-advances-zoning-scheme-that.html
Robert Dyer said:
"I doubt you want to open a discussion about the Kensington Crash Pad the MoCo cartel hosts journalists new to the County in on a temporary basis. You many recall when the defunct Bethesda Now launched, one of its first stories was about the Kensington Labor Day parade. WTF? Remember, Bethesda Now only covered Bethesda, of which Kensington is not a part.
"Several BB reporters have filed similar early dispatches from Kensington, as they stumble across stories while living in the crash pad. Who owns the crash pad? We only know its a friend of the MoCo cartel who wants good news about the cartel's politicians.
"Potential Pulitzer Prize story, if the Post actually covered Montgomery County. They haven't covered the Council general election AT ALL. All their MoCo political articles are about "look how many people are running for County Council/Executive!!!!!!!" Real Ed R. Murrow stuff. LOL"
"Dyer has loads of Silver Spring development updates, updates on progress at the new brewery, etc. Not one "Google Street View" image among those!
"Anything happening outside your window today that you can blog about? I propose a new local Edward R Murrow award category for local news reporting looking outside a window. 'This year's inaugural Rear Window award goes to...Bethesdamagazine.com!" Applause ensues.'"
"Dyer's stalker has a special feeling for Smashburger, hence all the weird comments on this closure. His story about a girl ordering a burger at this place with a 'fuck ton of mayo' was the most read story in his short, but sad career as a journo. Not exactly local Edward R.Murrow Award stuff. I can see why Reamer loved him so.
Not-So-Anonymous said: "[Deleted comment] expects to win Edward R. Murrow awards reporting on cars crashing into underwear stores. Big, big story."
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10:40: Nope - you didn't include the body found, because it hasn't been declared a homicide yet. Same bean counting tactic used to deflate murder total last year. You also didn't include the last minute homicide at the Rockville church.
We're tied for the high number of homicides in 2017, thanks to our soft-on-crime County Council (not surprising, considering they are criminals themselves!).
11:45: I reported Matchbox over a week ago, *****.
7:59: That's true, and we know it's true, because the same Riemer toadies who were lauding his call for more nightlife in 2013 are now claiming we don't actually need nightlife anymore, after Riemer's plan bombed and tanked the nighttime economy.
I think Dyer's issue with the Nighttime Economy Initiative may go back to the Task Force itself. Looking at who was part of that force was eye-opening.
I don't find anyone on the Council declaring it a success. I don't see what the big problem is...they tried an idea, one that's worked in other places, and it didn't pan out here, so they're looking at other ideas. Isn't that how it works?
9:14: Uh, 16 nightspots closing, and dozens of other businesses reducing late night hours?
10:41: Nope, I'm desperately rooting for an accurate homicide count and restoration of scanner access to police radios for transparency.
5:37: The problem is, the Big Idea is already on the table - ending the liquor monopoly. They shouldn't be looking at other ideas when they know what the real problem is, as far as alcohol goes.
1) But HOW did the initiative TANK the businesses? What actions did them in?
2) Nope. Not going to happen. Scanner access is being stopped all across the country, to keep police safe. I don't want our police force to be le4ss safe simply because a local blogger wants to listen in.
3) What replaces the liquor monopoly income to the county?
Hans Riemer was not even on the Task Force for the Nighttime Economy. So why do you always lay the blame on him? Read the report yourself https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/nighttimeeconomy/ and show me how anything in the report has caused businesses to close. Show me your investigation of just one business that has closed that is directly related to anything the Nighttime Economy initiative may or may not have done. How is the rest of Montgomery County doing with the Nighttime Economy?
From the Post 5 years ago: "Council member Hans Riemer (D-At Large), is a principal advocate of the task force"
"County Council member Hans Riemer (D-At Large), a key figure in the creation of the task force"
From HansRiemer.com: "In 2013 I asked the County Executive to create a Nighttime Economy Task Force"
I hadn't looked at the report in awhile, but it is quaint: Evan Glass, Riemer and others in the report advocate more taxi stands (!!!) and buses at night. Have they heard of Uber? The shilling for Barwood cabs is insane. Campaign contributions I assume.
Much of the report talk about arts and entertainment districts. All Bethesda got since the report are those red Bs around town. People are asking why Bethesda "is dead".
Other recommendations clearly failed, some due to ignorance- i.e. recommending late night increased noise limits in Rockville Town Square, which happens to have apartments and condos on all 4 sides :)
A strange stew participated in this debacle, I hope someone will follow up with them on this.
"I hadn't looked at the report in awhile, but it is quaint: Evan Glass, Riemer and others in the report advocate more taxi stands (!!!) and buses at night. Have they heard of Uber? The shilling for Barwood cabs is insane. Campaign contributions I assume."
Where does it say that the taxi stands were intended only for street-hailed taxis?
And during that time, the Bethesda Circulator route was expanded. That has made a huge difference in terms of convenience for local residents going to restaurants and "nightspots".
12:51pm I just don't see any benefits derived from this effort in Bethesda.
Where's the gain in arts & entertainment? Losing the theater puts us at a negative.
The approved downtown plan hasn't brought any tangible improvement in the pipeline- none of the new development is offering any arts or entertainment features. So much arguing about heights and building designs and we kind of lost our bearings and what community benefits we want. Too many armchair architects and not enough voices on arts, entertainment and dining.
7:02: The policies implemented failed, and the most important change needed - privatization of liquor sales - was discarded. We then experienced a record number of closures, and the entire character of downtown Bethesda late at night changed. Complete disaster.
Sorry, public transparency is a key function of government. Scanner access is an important tool in that. If you believe police can't discuss sensitive issues on a separate scrambled channel, you know nothing about law enforcement.
We would more than make up the $30 million in revenue with the liquor sales we would bring back from McLean and NW Washington, and growth in our restaurant and bar sector. The Maryland Restaurant Association noted that MoCo's hospitality industry has been flat, while counties like Frederick have enjoyed growth.
11:09: As previous commenters have noted, Riemer made himself the public face and received glowing media coverage. If he takes all the credit in advance for success that ended up not occurring, you better believe he takes the brunt of the blame. You can add Evan Glass if you want, but Evan Glass did not make himself the story or claim to be the savior of nightlife as Riemer did.
4:52: Barwood Cab - which went bankrupt after Riemer et al voted to make us subsidize it. LOL You can't make this stuff up, folks.
So you say? Really. Another time you guessed at something and were completely WRONG.
It's not worth it to get into this with you because...well, quite honestly, I know what I'm talking about, and you don't. Discuss sensitive issues? That's what you're going to hang your argument on? Pfft. If that's what you think it's about, then I'm not the one who knows "nothing about law enforcement."
5:50: Don't tell me, before you were a tax expert, music mogul and self-checkout system designer, you started out as a cop, right? LOL
Government is a master of coming up with excuses for doing the things they want to do. Check out 9/11, the CIA's drug-running, er, "war" in Afghanistan, and the security state as prime examples. Do you believe everything government tells you?
Actually I did major in Criminology for the first 2 years of college, and keep in contact with several people from that. At the time, there was a height requirement in law enforcement, and I was too short. It wasn't until after I switched to Political Science that it was changed to a height/weight ratio. But by that time, I was off pursuing new adventures. I got involved with music because of Bethesda. Psyche Delly, Red Fox (THE bluegrass spot before the Birchmere.)
What can I say? I'm middle-aged, independent and live to learn.
FYI, I've never talked about self-checkout systems and know nothing about them.
So, are you gonna spout Russian propaganda about Afghanistan too?
The newest Russian propaganda is the re-writing of their invasion of Afghanistan, as bolstered by Trump yesterday.
CIA as the moral core of America? I'm not sure what you're asking here. But, no, I don't know why one would think of an intelligence agency as a moral core of a county.
I mean...
ReplyDeleteDuh.
who thought this was a good idea?
Comments closed on Sears story. Best comment ever was that Sears Nationwide closures was due to movie Cineplex closings.
ReplyDelete[restored for the third time]
ReplyDeleteThe Mo Co Show reported that this place closed on December 15.
Closing sale began on December 1.
The store's website indicates where their merchandise may be found now.
The uncredited image is from Google Street View, captured September 2017. (Note the green trees and high angle of the shadows.)
Can Sears and Tone On Tone somehow be defined as "nightspots"?
ReplyDeleteDyer will find a way.
Bought a dozen Jitterbug phones from Sears for the team so we can stay on top of all the closures around town.
ReplyDeleteLooks like that cineplex in Towson is attracting 20,000 hoodlums per weekend.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-county/towson/ph-tt-cinemark-policy-1003-20161003-story.html
Apart from the discount signs, Sears looks pretty much as it did a year and a half ago...or even two years ago.
ReplyDeleteLooks like Elrich is practicing what he preaches:
ReplyDeletehttps://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/government/county-executive-gets-electric-hybrid-vehicle-for-government-business/
A few thoughts:
ReplyDelete* The guy who posted here claiming he reported Tone on Tone closing first needs to get a life ASAP. If he wants to tout that on his CV, do it on his own site
* Downtown Bethesda doesn't have a premier multi-plex cinema and it is embarrassing. In addition to existing downtowns (Rockville, Silver Spring, etc.) every new development/downtown, from Pike & Rose to The Boro in Tysons has a theater at the heart of the neighborhood. You'd have to believe "Anonymous" here is smarter than Federal Realty, The Meridian Group and other major successful firms that are including theaters.
* Riemer touted his success with the Nightlife Economy and yet the consensus is that downtown Bethesda is "dead" in regards to nightlife. Something doesn't add up.
Correction to @ 6:39 AM - not from the MoCoShow, from the store's blog.
ReplyDeleteThe MoCoShow reported the closing of the Wheaton Plaza f.y.e. back on November 11.
7:12 AM No offense, but what does the Wheaton Plaza FYE have to do with Tone on Tone closing?
ReplyDeleteWhat a strange coincidence that "Woodmont" comments here within just a few minutes of a comment by "SS Penguin" on the East County blog.
ReplyDelete#ShiftChange
7:22am back to your old conspiracy theory that every comment, other than yours, is Dyer?
DeleteAnd that you are his sole reader and therefore Dyer should interact with you more?
Sick.
Wonder if BtB saw the moving trucks from across the street in 209?
ReplyDelete7:08AM - Embarassing? Really? To whom?
ReplyDeleteI'll bet if you asked 1000 people for one word describing how they feel about downtown Bethesda not having a "premier multi-plex cinema, none would say "embarassed
One thing that hasn't been mentioned...are any of those theaters profitable?
7:31am I don't have iPic's financials, but it is difficult to get seats for new films there, so I'd say they are doing very well.
DeleteClearly Riemer's fault. If the Regal Cineplex hadn't closed, this place would be alive and well.
ReplyDeleteI know I often tell my wife: "Let's go catch a movie, then shop for Swedish antiques afterwards."
It's incredibly hard to imagine iPic Entertainment (NASDAQ:IPIC) becoming profitable. The company is likely to file for bankruptcy or substantially dilute current shareholders as soon as related party borrowings run out, and they will soon. They missed their last target and currently, trading at under $4/share, are missing their current $9 target.
ReplyDeleteI'm thinking movie attendance is a lot like print newspapers in that the industry is in permanent and steady decline.
7:45 AM The sad thing is that if Riemer came out today and stated a theater was needed, you'd be lauding him.
ReplyDelete7:40, I believe what 7:22 is saying is that There are several people on this blog that he finds obnoxious and you are most of them.
ReplyDeleteIf you're going to insist that every anonymous comment was made by him, then everyone can just assume that every pro-Dyer comment is made by you, the serial shiller.
Robert, I am simply exercising my first amendment rights with this post. Please don't suppress this right by deleting this comment.
ReplyDelete@ 7:40 PM - I count 11 comments above @ 7:40 AM, and it's clear that comment refers to only one of those 11.
ReplyDelete@ 7:59 AM - The sad thing is your unending obsession with Hans Riemer. He is one Council member of seven, and the County government certainly does not revolve around him.
ReplyDeleteThe only one posting here that shows an unending obsession with Mr Riemer, is Robert Dyer.
ReplyDeleteFACT.
8:45 AM; 8:50 AM
ReplyDeleteRiemer was the most vocal about leading the Nightlife Economy effort.
So, if Riemer is claiming success, why wouldn't he be mentioned?
Robert Dyer writes as if he is somehow trapped in Bethesda and can't go anywhere else.
ReplyDeleteNever understood Tone On Tone... all the merchandise was over sized and white or beige. Guess that was a thing.
ReplyDeleteDyer @ 5:14 DST / 8:14 EST on the now-locked Sears post:
ReplyDeleteWe tied last year's total at 21 - a 31% increase over 2016. You left out the latest victim in Rockville, and the body that was found a few weeks ago.
No, I didn't. Those are counted in the total (19). MoCo homicides plunged 10% in 2018. And it's worth reiterating that your "31% increase" translates to 5 homicides. Now to borrow a phrase, let's be clear -- even 1 homicide is 1 too many, but we shouldn't get hysterical. To lend context to this important conversation let's consider the total number of homicides in the county since 2007:
2007 = 19
2008 = 21
2009 = 12
2010 = 17
2011 = 16
2012 = 15
2013 = 8
2014 = 19
2015 = 30
2016 = 16
2017 = 21
2018 = 19
iPic stock price:
ReplyDeleteJanuary 29, 2018: $14.80
January 2, 2019: $2.99
Matchbox will open this summer.
ReplyDelete#Scooped
Again, nothing to do with the theater.
11:45 AM Better late than never I guess. Dyer reported about Matchbox days ago :)
ReplyDelete1:03 — If by “reported about” you mean “buried a mention about a ‘rumor’ beneath a bunch of night life- and theater closing-arglebargle”, then yes, I suppose you’re correct.
Delete1:03: "Popeyes is coming to Norfolk Avenue."
DeleteTime to start fact checking Hans Riemer when he next makes false claims about the Nightlife Economy.
ReplyDelete1:25 PM Better later than never I guess. Legacy media will always be slower.
ReplyDeleteHope you had a good holiday break!
1:44 PM is back from holiday break, ready to troll and report news Dyer had days ago with a smattering of county press releases.
ReplyDeleteNot exactly the strategy to win a local Edward R. Murrow Award.
Not-So-Anonymous @ 2:06 PM said...
ReplyDelete"1:44 PM is back from holiday break, ready to troll and report news Dyer had days ago with a smattering of county press releases.
"Not exactly the strategy to win a local Edward R. Murrow Award.
Category: "Edward R Murrow Award"
August 30, 2018
http://robertdyer.blogspot.com/2018/08/riemer-advances-zoning-scheme-that.html
Robert Dyer said:
"I doubt you want to open a discussion about the Kensington Crash Pad the MoCo cartel hosts journalists new to the County in on a temporary basis. You many recall when the defunct Bethesda Now launched, one of its first stories was about the Kensington Labor Day parade. WTF? Remember, Bethesda Now only covered Bethesda, of which Kensington is not a part.
"Several BB reporters have filed similar early dispatches from Kensington, as they stumble across stories while living in the crash pad. Who owns the crash pad? We only know its a friend of the MoCo cartel who wants good news about the cartel's politicians.
"Potential Pulitzer Prize story, if the Post actually covered Montgomery County. They haven't covered the Council general election AT ALL. All their MoCo political articles are about "look how many people are running for County Council/Executive!!!!!!!" Real Ed R. Murrow stuff. LOL"
August 15, 2018
http://robertdyer.blogspot.com/2018/08/the-claiborne-is-back-and-bigger.html
Not-So-Anonymous said:
"Dyer has loads of Silver Spring development updates, updates on progress at the new brewery, etc. Not one "Google Street View" image among those!
"Anything happening outside your window today that you can blog about? I propose a new local Edward R Murrow award category for local news reporting looking outside a window. 'This year's inaugural Rear Window award goes to...Bethesdamagazine.com!" Applause ensues.'"
February 21, 2018
http://robertdyer.blogspot.com/2018/02/auburn-professional-building-in.html
"Woodmont" said...
"If you're nominating yourself for the Edward R. Murrow award for breaking development meeting sign news, I don't think the category exists."
Robert Dyer said (on the same thread 6 1/2 hours later, without even acknowleging "Woodmont"):
"Yep, we all saw the sign on Auburn Avenue. Pulitzer stuff, for sure."
January 10, 2017
http://robertdyer.blogspot.com/2017/01/smashburger-closes-in-bethesda-photos.html
"Bethesdan" said:
"Dyer's stalker has a special feeling for Smashburger, hence all the weird comments on this closure. His story about a girl ordering a burger at this place with a 'fuck ton of mayo' was the most read story in his short, but sad career as a journo. Not exactly local Edward R.Murrow Award stuff. I can see why Reamer loved him so.
August 21, 2015
http://robertdyer.blogspot.com/2015/08/car-crashes-into-bethesda-storefront.html
Not-So-Anonymous said: "[Deleted comment] expects to win Edward R. Murrow awards reporting on cars crashing into underwear stores. Big, big story."
WARNING: THIS COMMENT HAS BEEN BACKED UP BY THE SUBURBAN NEWS NETWORK COMMENT RESTORATION SERVICE. Any attempt to censor will get bodyslammed through a coffee table.
Dyer is covering our rapidly changing city.
ReplyDelete10:40: Nope - you didn't include the body found, because it hasn't been declared a homicide yet. Same bean counting tactic used to deflate murder total last year. You also didn't include the last minute homicide at the Rockville church.
ReplyDeleteWe're tied for the high number of homicides in 2017, thanks to our soft-on-crime County Council (not surprising, considering they are criminals themselves!).
11:45: I reported Matchbox over a week ago, *****.
7:59: That's true, and we know it's true, because the same Riemer toadies who were lauding his call for more nightlife in 2013 are now claiming we don't actually need nightlife anymore, after Riemer's plan bombed and tanked the nighttime economy.
Heckuva job, Brownie!
How did "Riemer's plan tank the nighttime evonomy"?
ReplyDelete"You didn't include the body found, because it hasn't been declared a homicide yet."
ReplyDeleteYou are desperately rooting for that poor dead person to be a homicide victim, just out of spite for the County government? That is seriously sick.
"The high number of homicides in 2017"
Nope. There were more in 2015.
I think Dyer's issue with the Nighttime Economy Initiative may go back to the Task Force itself. Looking at who was part of that force was eye-opening.
ReplyDeleteI don't find anyone on the Council declaring it a success. I don't see what the big problem is...they tried an idea, one that's worked in other places, and it didn't pan out here, so they're looking at other ideas. Isn't that how it works?
9:14: Uh, 16 nightspots closing, and dozens of other businesses reducing late night hours?
ReplyDelete10:41: Nope, I'm desperately rooting for an accurate homicide count and restoration of scanner access to police radios for transparency.
5:37: The problem is, the Big Idea is already on the table - ending the liquor monopoly. They shouldn't be looking at other ideas when they know what the real problem is, as far as alcohol goes.
1) But HOW did the initiative TANK the businesses? What actions did them in?
ReplyDelete2) Nope. Not going to happen. Scanner access is being stopped all across the country, to keep police safe. I don't want our police force to be le4ss safe simply because a local blogger wants to listen in.
3) What replaces the liquor monopoly income to the county?
Hans Riemer was not even on the Task Force for the Nighttime Economy. So why do you always lay the blame on him? Read the report yourself https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/nighttimeeconomy/ and show me how anything in the report has caused businesses to close. Show me your investigation of just one business that has closed that is directly related to anything the Nighttime Economy initiative may or may not have done. How is the rest of Montgomery County doing with the Nighttime Economy?
ReplyDelete11:09am
ReplyDeleteFrom the Post 5 years ago:
"Council member Hans Riemer (D-At Large), is a principal advocate of the task force"
"County Council member Hans Riemer (D-At Large), a key figure in the creation of the task force"
From HansRiemer.com:
"In 2013 I asked the County Executive to create a Nighttime Economy Task Force"
I hadn't looked at the report in awhile, but it is quaint: Evan Glass, Riemer and others in the report advocate more taxi stands (!!!) and buses at night. Have they heard of Uber? The shilling for Barwood cabs is insane. Campaign contributions I assume.
Much of the report talk about arts and entertainment districts. All Bethesda got since the report are those red Bs around town. People are asking why Bethesda "is dead".
Other recommendations clearly failed, some due to ignorance- i.e. recommending late night increased noise limits in Rockville Town Square, which happens to have apartments and condos on all 4 sides :)
A strange stew participated in this debacle, I hope someone will follow up with them on this.
Ask yourself, is downtown Bethesda's nightlife better than it was 6-8 years ago?
ReplyDeleteAre there more arts and entertainment options? No, there are less.
"I hadn't looked at the report in awhile, but it is quaint: Evan Glass, Riemer and others in the report advocate more taxi stands (!!!) and buses at night. Have they heard of Uber? The shilling for Barwood cabs is insane. Campaign contributions I assume."
ReplyDeleteWhere does it say that the taxi stands were intended only for street-hailed taxis?
And during that time, the Bethesda Circulator route was expanded. That has made a huge difference in terms of convenience for local residents going to restaurants and "nightspots".
12:20pm I can't remember the last time I hailed a cab in MoCo.
ReplyDeleteThe report seems out of touch in some areas.
Seems like time to assess where we are now and make new recommendations.
The new downtown Bethesda plan also is a miss for more arts and entertainment.
"I can't remember the last time I hailed a cab in MoCo."
ReplyDelete"The report seems out of touch in some areas."
Not "out of touch", just slightly out of date. Did you notice the year "2013" in the report?
12:51pm I just don't see any benefits derived from this effort in Bethesda.
DeleteWhere's the gain in arts & entertainment? Losing the theater puts us at a negative.
The approved downtown plan hasn't brought any tangible improvement in the pipeline- none of the new development is offering any arts or entertainment features. So much arguing about heights and building designs and we kind of lost our bearings and what community benefits we want. Too many armchair architects and not enough voices on arts, entertainment and dining.
Also, why disband the committee in 2013? As mentioned, that makes many recommendations out of date (taxi stands and such)
ReplyDeleteIt's one thing to say, "the Nighttime Economy Task Force failed to achieve several of its objectives".
ReplyDeleteIt's quite another thing to say that "Hans Riemer caused 16 nightspots to close".
1:38 PM
ReplyDeleteSo, you agree it wasn't a success? We're reaching common ground then! Good to start the new year with agreement.
But HOW did the initiative TANK the businesses? What actions did them in?
ReplyDeleteWhen I think of experts to turn to about "hip" nightlife, I immediately think of Hans Riemer and Evan Glass.
ReplyDeleteNo wonder more Barwood cab stands was a main conclusion.
Need a more diverse group for the next committee!
7:02: The policies implemented failed, and the most important change needed - privatization of liquor sales - was discarded. We then experienced a record number of closures, and the entire character of downtown Bethesda late at night changed. Complete disaster.
ReplyDeleteSorry, public transparency is a key function of government. Scanner access is an important tool in that. If you believe police can't discuss sensitive issues on a separate scrambled channel, you know nothing about law enforcement.
We would more than make up the $30 million in revenue with the liquor sales we would bring back from McLean and NW Washington, and growth in our restaurant and bar sector. The Maryland Restaurant Association noted that MoCo's hospitality industry has been flat, while counties like Frederick have enjoyed growth.
11:09: As previous commenters have noted, Riemer made himself the public face and received glowing media coverage. If he takes all the credit in advance for success that ended up not occurring, you better believe he takes the brunt of the blame. You can add Evan Glass if you want, but Evan Glass did not make himself the story or claim to be the savior of nightlife as Riemer did.
4:52: Barwood Cab - which went bankrupt after Riemer et al voted to make us subsidize it. LOL You can't make this stuff up, folks.
"Riemer et al voted to make us subsidize Barwood"
ReplyDeleteDyer never learns.
Sad!
"you know nothing about law enforcement"
ReplyDeleteSo you say? Really. Another time you guessed at something and were completely WRONG.
It's not worth it to get into this with you because...well, quite honestly, I know what I'm talking about, and you don't.
Discuss sensitive issues? That's what you're going to hang your argument on? Pfft. If that's what you think it's about, then I'm not the one who knows "nothing about law enforcement."
5:50: Don't tell me, before you were a tax expert, music mogul and self-checkout system designer, you started out as a cop, right? LOL
ReplyDeleteGovernment is a master of coming up with excuses for doing the things they want to do. Check out 9/11, the CIA's drug-running, er, "war" in Afghanistan, and the security state as prime examples. Do you believe everything government tells you?
Actually I did major in Criminology for the first 2 years of college, and keep in contact with several people from that. At the time, there was a height requirement in law enforcement, and I was too short. It wasn't until after I switched to Political Science that it was changed to a height/weight ratio. But by that time, I was off pursuing new adventures. I got involved with music because of Bethesda. Psyche Delly, Red Fox (THE bluegrass spot before the Birchmere.)
ReplyDeleteWhat can I say? I'm middle-aged, independent and live to learn.
FYI, I've never talked about self-checkout systems and know nothing about them.
So, are you gonna spout Russian propaganda about Afghanistan too?
6:59: What is the "Russian propaganda about Afghanistan?"
ReplyDeleteDo you believe the CIA is the "moral core" of America?
These are great questions, and the answers should be quite informative.
You're keeping Robbie up way past his bedtime, Anna. LOL
ReplyDeleteRobbie, what/who do you believe caused WTC Building 7 to fall down?
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The newest Russian propaganda is the re-writing of their invasion of Afghanistan, as bolstered by Trump yesterday.
ReplyDeleteCIA as the moral core of America? I'm not sure what you're asking here. But, no, I don't know why one would think of an intelligence agency as a moral core of a county.
country. not county. but it applies there too.
ReplyDeleteNot sure how we jumped from not being able to eavesdrop on the MoCoPoPo scanners... to the CIA, 9-11 and Afghanistan.
ReplyDeleteRobert Dyer has an extremely disordered thought process.
I answered your questions, Bob.
ReplyDeleteDid you find them as informative as you'd hoped?
**crickets**
ReplyDeleteHey Dyer - HERE is Trump's regurgitated Russian propaganda regarding Afghanistan.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/trump-just-endorsed-ussrs-invasion-afghanistan/579361/