Wednesday, July 02, 2025

Landscapers cut back overgrowth at stalled-out development site in downtown Bethesda


Landscapers tackled overgrown shrubs, bushes, and other assorted vegetation at the historic building that once housed the iconic Sir Walter Raleigh Inn steakhouse at 8011 Woodmont Avenue in Bethesda yesterday. The lot is one of several vacant properties that were supposed to be redeveloped as the Artena Bethesda apartments many years ago. That project remains stalled after several false starts, leaving the abandoned commercial buildings on them to fall into decay, and to be invaded by vagrants. The result has been to create an eyesore for much of a block between the former surplus store at 8008 Wisconsin Avenue and the 8011 Woodmont apartment tower, as well as on the Woodmont side.






19 comments:

n/a said...

The better to see the unvarnished dilapidation in the stark light of day.

JAC said...

That whole thing has become a blight. I sure hope a massive building isn't going in there but it's a corner so... Amazing to think that a family used to live there. More amazing still that Sir Walter Raleigh, at the time, was considered among the best restaurants in the area. Going out with the family in those days was a big deal

Anonymous said...

Calling this structure historic is a misnomer. It doesn't fit the qualifications in any jurisdiction at this point.

Anonymous said...

Per MNCPPC; Project: 8000 Wisconsin Avenue (32018012A)
"The Project proposes a 199‐foot tall mixed‐use building comprised of ground floor retail and upper‐story residential units."
Sorry!

JAC said...

8:51 - I had no delusions about the site only hoped it wouldn't be another skyscraper. And people here excoriate me for saying the sun is disappearing from the downtown area. Well , it is

Anonymous said...

Did they use electric instead of gas powered? #ItsTheLAW!

JAC said...

10:01 - Great point. The county knows they can't possibly police this even though they say they will be. They also know that the most effective and cheapest form of policing this horrible crime of using a gas leaf blower is your nosey neighbor, busy body snitches. You know that will be happening quick and often. Unreal.

Anonymous said...

Chapstick on a pig? :-)

Anonymous said...

Woodmont Triangle is in danger of becoming Ballston.

JAC said...

9:33 - I usually say Rosslyn, but, yes, sadly that's true.

n/a said...

At the danger of this conversation veering off course, JAC, I've got to say I'm all for nosy neighbors snitching on leaf blower malefactors. It might not be a problem in your neighborhood, but at least where I live, autumn has annually brought with it the days-long drone of gas blowers. Several backpack blower-equipped guys on a crew will spend literally hours with the machines groaning away at a single lawn, and there will be multiple lawn services at work simultaneously throughout the area, providing stereo cacophony on any given day. There are periods when the noise begins at 7:30 or 8 and continues without interruption, save for the crew's lunch break, until 4. After a while it metastasizes from being mildly irritating to being a profound, intrusive aggravation. Ergo, I'm in favor of ratting out anyone still operating one of those machines. Turn it in, get the credit towards a battery model, and bring a bit of peace and quiet to the area. Why is that a bad thing?

Anonymous said...

Rosslyn has a skyline full of corporate headquarters so I tend to say Ballston. Downtown Bethesda has Marriott but Rosslyn has many such.
And Ballston is full of generic apartment high rises which is what Woodmont Triangle is getting.

JAC said...

9:27 - good point

Anonymous said...

Don't think you've thought this through as battery technology isn't what you believe it is. DC is a perfect example of how it's going to work. Leaf collection switched over to electric for the last several years so down each block you have four guys with dual battery backpack blowers, two down each side of the block with one leaf collection truck, (diesel powered with a large gasoline engine leaf vacuum). Then there is the "battery van" which swaps batteries every block and makes runs back to a warehouse where DC charges these batteries. For every battery working, they keep five batteries charged or charging to keep the leaf collection seamless. Add to this they have one guy with a gas powered blower cleaning up what the electric blowers have missed.

Private contractors won't be able to have this type of infrastructure so they will have gasoline powered generators on their trailers constantly charging batteries and if the crew is large enough, (more than two), which means four batteries per backpack and at least sixteen being charged continuously for two guys, they'll need an additional generator.

Now all of this comes at an additional risk of fire because charging hot batteries at the highest rate possible comes at a price and many landscapers will buy cheap replacement batteries as the OEM ones cost at least 2X as much. Ask MCFR about the battery fire just six days ago in Gaithersburg.

I realize most people of a certain political affiliation still think that electricity originates from wall sockets but I assure you that it's more complicated and that the "intrusive aggravation" of gasoline leaf blowers are more environmentally friendly and less likely to catch anyone's house on fire.

Anonymous said...

Does not matter because by the time the police responds they'll be long gone!

JAC said...

6:22 - n/a - I have a different view. What's the big deal you say? Well, gimme an inch and they'll take a mile. When or where does govt intrusion end? They know better than we do and we'll comply or else the leaf blower police will get you. They're loud, yes. But do you know how bad that battery technology process is? Look at it more holistically. Where do this minerals come from and who mines them? It looks and feels good but it's a charade.

n/a said...

@1:48 -- apropos my not having thought through that 6:22 post, here's a thought experiment for *you*: if battery-powered blowers are insufficiently powerful to clear debris, how about garden crews resort to rakes, instead. That technology worked just fine for many generations, and still serves the purpose at my house. If people want their yards tidied and pin-perfect, then fine, great, good. However, homeowners attaining spotless, pin-free lawns is not a valid argument to legitimize each autumn's daily intruding upon *my* peace, quiet, focus, and concentration --while I am inside my house, with my windows shut. Why should *their* desire for a landscaping result on their property be allowed bleed over sonically and deny me *my* desire to be left in peace while inside my house?

People don't like batteries? Use a rake and keep quiet about it.

Anonymous said...

100%! We are in the minority here. It's simply about the damn noise for me as you do eloquently stated in an earlier post. Living in a ghetto section 8 bldg on Battery (pun intended) those gas powered blowers woke me up and ring in my ears on Wednesdays or whatever day the new low end landscaper crews choose to show up. This goes all the way back to when Aldon owned the bldg. The company 'Scapers are excellent because when I walked by Sussex House ON July first, the were NOT using gas! I know this is political and all the information on electricity sources are valid, and local government is too powerful and stupid, the loudness is the hill I'm choosing to die on. And you watch, next week when the fly by night crews whom HOC chose to hire for landscaping on their property will more than likely still be using the illegal equipment... Made into law BY the very county known as MoCo. I have my camera at the ready, will be taking pictures of faces and calling 311 AND filling out the online complaint form every. Damn. Time.

Anonymous said...

Back to reality of the real world where virtually nobody in Bethesda does their own lawn. Personally I could care less about a "perfect" lawn but this is how it should work in a free society giving people choices and if you want complete peace and quiet, buy enough acreage to accomplish this. Dictating what you think is the right thing to do without looking in the mirror is probably why many people here are very happy not living next door to your house. Unfortunately this is how Elrich and the current council, (which you likely support), got elected.