Tuesday, February 26, 2019

Moribund MoCo economy forces Brookfield to go with residential for 4 Bethesda Metro Center tower

And the hits just keep on coming. Montgomery County's future of fewer jobs and more overcrowded classrooms is further cemented by developer Brookfield's decision to go with residential housing instead of office space at their planned 4 Bethesda Metro Center tower. A high-profile location and position on the Bethesda skyline was thought to be an ideal lure for a major corporate tenant. But as other office developers have learned to their chagrin, those companies just don't want to come to an anti-business jurisdiction like Montgomery.

This is the second major blow to our moribund County economy in the last few days. Just last week, tech firm Yext announced a Rosslyn office with 500 high-wage jobs. Following Amazon's decision to choose Crystal City for its 25000 HQ2 jobs, the Yext announcement led several to declare Northern Virginia "the next Silicon Valley."

After the local media allowed clueless MoCo elected officials to declare their Amazon loss a victory, let's see how our "new" County Council spins dozens of additional public school students from 4 Bethesda Metro Center as a win. LOL.

4 Bethesda Metro Center will now include up to 489 residential units, and only 16,422 SF of new retail and restaurant space.

99 comments:

Anonymous said...

There is over 1 million square feet of office under construction right now in Bethesda. Of that over 60% is PRE-leased. The demand for office is high in Bethesda, in fact it is the only submarket in the entire metro area where that is the case..

Anonymous said...

Local news sites reported yesterday that Bethesda has the highest rents for apartments in the metro area.

So people really, really want to live in Bethesda, and the market is responding.

Anonymous said...

Wait...hasn't this building been proposed to be residential from the beginning?

More #FakeNews from Dyer.

Robert Dyer said...

6:22: LOL, right - That's why WE are subsidizing the breakup of floorplans for smaller, less-desirable tenants at taxpayer expense through that County program?

6:25: Actually, my undercover investigation has found that most of these new residential buildings are being used as hotels and contract housing, not actual residents. Profit is high, but demand is low. A small number of suckers who can afford to are paying full freight on those high rents, but most tenants are not. So there isn't a market for housing at that price, and they fill those units by other means.

Many people want to live here, but few can actually afford it.

This has proven the "add inventory to force rents downward" argument totally false, much like the claim that residential creates revenue to pay for the costs it generates. Also false. Check budgets of all recent years for proof. We're in the red after all that "revenue."

6:28: Wrong. The decision was just made now. You're just upset that A) I broke the story, and B) it's so embarrassing for your Fellow Travelers on the County Council.

Anonymous said...

"Many people want to live here, but few can actually afford it."

So your solution is to build LESS housing?

" Actually, my undercover investigation has found that..."

LOL

"most of these new residential buildings are being used as hotels"

You mean by owners/tenants renting on AirBNB, the company you love to tout?

Anna said...

Well, those are certainly...words...

Falsely calling others "Fellow Travelers" will not work out well for you.

I shudder to think of the kind of karma that kicks up.


Anonymous said...

Can you provide a link about this new development at 4 Bethesda Metro Center? The project received Sketch Plan Approval for 282 new units, not 489 units. So unless they have switched to all studio apartments, some thing seems incorrect. Their approval was for either a 28 story multi family tower or a 23 story office tower. What news can you report that validates this change?

Anonymous said...

https://www.bizjournals.com/washington/news/2019/02/20/bethesda-is-getting-a-whole-new-look.html

http://www.cushmanwakefield.com/en/research-and-insight/unitedstates/suburban-maryland-office-snapshot

Robert Dyer said...

6:47: I think we have to limit housing until the infrastructure catches up, and we actually grow our commercial tax base instead of relying on residential. Time to pull up the ladders for now.

6:48: Very accurate term, so I know it may strike a raw nerve in some for its accuracy. #FellowTravelers

6:49: These are the new numbers they are submitting to P&P.

6:51: Once you look past the brochures, it's a much less pretty picture for offices in Bethesda. Hence, we are subsidizing less-desirable office tenants with tax dollars. Ouch. The buildings have/are going up, but ask yourself, "Who's in them?"

Not Capital One. Not Northrop. Not Hilton. Not Volkswagen, CEB, Nestle, Intelsat, Gerber, Amazon...................etc.

Anna said...

No it's really not an accurate term. That's another lie of yours.

What is really shows is your complete ignorance. Although your glee in showing it off to the world is, admittedly, amusing.

Robert Dyer said...

7:05: LOL - You're denying most on the Council are Communist fellow travelers? Have you listened to anything they've said in the last two decades?

Anonymous said...

Calling the Councilmembers "Communist fellow travelers" might win you an election in Mississippi, but not in Montgomery County.

Anonymous said...

Anyone see the video clip of Bernie and Jane when they arrived back from the Soviet Union? Extolling the virtues of the USSR's public transportation system and other programs.

Would fit perfect on the Council.

Anonymous said...

Dyer's dishonesty has hit a new high here and someone needs to set the record straight.

There are four new office buildings currently in some phase of construction in downtown Bethesda with nearly 2 million square feet of space.

In other words.....there is more office space going up right now in Bethesda than at any point in history!

Brookfield said from the very beginning that they were leaning heavily towards residential because it would liven up and diversify the uses at the currently nine-to-five Metro Plaza and allow more room for the public park.

We know you hate the county council and executive Dyer, but for the sake of at least some credibility, please be more objective in your reporting.

Anonymous said...

Incomplete Sentences Guy is back!

Anonymous said...

"the Yext announcement led several to declare Northern Virginia 'the next Silicon Valley'."

A more accurate quote would be, "Yext founder Howard Lerman called Northern Virginia "the quiet next Silicon Valley', in an interview in The Washington Post."

Also, you should have linked to the article in the Washington Post in which Lerman's quote appeared, not to your own article.

#Journalism101

Anna said...

7:14AM - Yes. I am categorically "denying most on the Council are Communist fellow travelers."

Like I've said before, you're just really bizarre, spending an inordinate amount of time analyzing people's motives and seeing conspiracies where none exist.

It's like you get up each day, ready to consume yourself with all the ways life's done you wrong.

Weird.


Anonymous said...

"4 Bethesda Metro Center will now include up to 489 residential units, and only 16,422 SF of new retail and restaurant space."

What were the numbers before they submitted this revised proposal, Mr. Dyer? It would have been helpful to show your readers how the proposal has changed, as you claim, in favor of more housing at the site.

Anonymous said...

Saith Dyer: "contract housing, not actual residents"

Residents don't live in "contract housing"?

Anonymous said...

AVOCADO TOWER?!

Anonymous said...

"Once you look past the brochures, it's a much less pretty picture for offices in Bethesda. Hence, we are subsidizing less-desirable office tenants with tax dollars. Ouch. The buildings have/are going up, but ask yourself, "Who's in them?"

I suspect that the office tenants moving into the five new high rises in Bethesda might disagree with your observation that they are "less-desirable". Perhaps the folks at Host Hotels & Resorts, Booz Allen Hamilton, Orano, JBG Smith, Fox 5 News and 3500 employees of Marriott might think you sir are the less-desirable party.

And as for your suggestion that Tysons has great architecture and a cool skyline, I would like to know what you are vapping. Tysons is a hot mess of spread out and very dated office buildings separated by freeways and huge surface parking lots. Almost no residential, and very dead streets after 6 PM. One of the most pedestrian unfriendly places on the planet. Yes, they have a masterplan to fix this, but it will be decades before it is as walkable as Bethesda.

You also mentioned Rosslyn's skyline. At least that city is a compact and walkable place, but also has some very tired and dated buildings. It does look cool when viewed from DC with the water in the foreground. It has some nice views of DC from the upper levels, but otherwise a very boring place.

Anonymous said...

Why are comments on the article about the nice new sign in front of the soon-to-be-gone Casa Oaxaca blocked?

Cy said...

Went to Tysons Corner today. It was quite depressing. Beautiful day an not one person walking on the street. All the buildings new and old look empty duting the day, unless everyone takes Metro, which you would see more people walking. The outdated mall is the center of action. So sad. No parks. An ugly elevated concrete platform in the middle of the main street. When I got back home to Bethesda I said thank go I dont live in Fairfax County.

Anonymous said...

@6:55 I agree. Tysons is a mess when it comes to pedestrians. Try to walk along 123 or 7 -- there's no sidewalk for most of it!

Anonymous said...

Almost all the structured parking in Tyson’s (and Reston Town Center) is above ground, providing massively boring facades at the levels that pedestrians experience. What isn’t above ground is in acres of surface parking. Almost all new parking in Bethesda is (mostly) below grade, providing space for active office and residential windows and balconies that animate the streetscape. A very good example of this bad idea is seen in Denver, where almost all new projects have massive and blank above ground parking decks. K🙂

Anonymous said...

Saith Dyer: "WE are subsidizing the breakup of floorplans for smaller, less-desirable tenants at taxpayer expense through that County program"

You STILL don't understand what MPDUs are.

Robert Dyer said...

9:29: We're talking about offices, not apartments here. There are no MPDUs in office buildings. But there is indeed a program the County runs that subsidizes smaller, less desirable office tenants to fill empty office space at taxpayer expense.

7:34: It's too bad the whole downtown shuts down after 9 PM or so since Hans Riemer tanked the nighttime economy. Not much activation around town. Heckuva job, Brownie!

6:55: Driving through on the Beltway at night, Tysons presents an impressive skyline of lit buildings and corporate HQs with signage. The views available from high-rises in Rosslyn speak for themselves. It's a one-two punch that beats anything MoCo can offer at the moment.

2:06: Host, like Marriott, was already here. Booz Allen Hamilton is headquartered in McLean, not Bethesda. Orano is small, and JBG Smith simply solved the low-demand problem by moving themselves into their own building. Clever, but not exactly a move that screams "hot Bethesda office market."

Meanwhile, Tysons alone has Capital One, Hilton, Intelsat, Gannett, etc., and NoVa overall has Northrop, Volkswagen, Nestle, CEB, Gerber, and now a little mom-and-pop company called Amazon.com. There's no comparison with moribund Montgomery County.

10:14: Contract housing is not the same as leasing an apartment at full market rate. The relationship between occupant and location is also even more transient than the typical apartment resident. It's a transactional relationship with the town you're in to make money at the moment. You see that attitude around town in the restaurants and public spaces.

9:59: LOL - the Council and Executive just allowed $7 million to be embezzled from the public and you say that conspiracy didn't exist? How about the one to destroy the suburban neighborhoods throughout the County by allowing multifamily housing in single-family home neighborhoods in exchange for cash from their developer sugar daddies? You missed that one, too? The Council-connected non-profit that "lost" $900,000 a decade ago, and never found it?

8:30: The buildings are either all empty, or filling with low-desirability tenants at taxpayer-subsidized expense! Heckuva job, Brownie!

7:39: And that's because a majority of MoCo residents are Fellow Travelers themselves? Please expand on that claim!!! Tell me more about the MoCo Fifth Column beyond the Council and Planning Board and their media allies - you're saying it's also a majority of residents?

Anonymous said...

"corporate HQs with signage"

LOL

Anna said...

The only thing I said was Yes. I am categorically "denying most on the Council are Communist fellow travelers."

All the rest of your mumbo-jumbo
the Council and Executive just allowed $7 million to be embezzled from the public and you say that conspiracy didn't exist? How about the one to destroy the suburban neighborhoods throughout the County by allowing multifamily housing in single-family home neighborhoods in exchange for cash from their developer sugar daddies? You missed that one, too? The Council-connected non-profit that "lost" $900,000 a decade ago, and never found it?
is distraction and basic strawman. (By exaggerating, misrepresenting, or just completely fabricating someone's argument, it's much easier to present your own position as being reasonable, but this kind of dishonesty serves to undermine honest rational debate.)

Anonymous said...

"Tell me more about the MoCo Fifth Column beyond the Council and Planning Board and their media allies - you're saying it's also a majority of residents?"

Three elections in a row didn't make that clear to you?

Anna said...

LOL 7:39 Are you giving him even more conspiracies to theorize?

Sheesh...The paranoid style of American populism in full display.

Anonymous said...

I guess the possibility of acknowledging "you know what? The voters don't like my positions on the issues and are concerned about my complete lack of experience in anything. Maybe I need to change my positions to match them to the consensus of residents of the County and gain some more work experience" has completely eluded you.

Robert Dyer said...

5:44: I lost because a majority of residents are Communists? LOL - Your tinfoil hat is loose.

6:04: No way to acknowledge that with clear evidence of illegal voting, voting results tampering (seen in wildly-anomalous results at many polling places), and collusion between the MoCo cartel and local media and civic organizations. No media coverage, traditional debates canceled = low information voters.

Contrary to your claims, I have more experience than many of those elected last November. A decade of on-the-ground experience on the major issues, where my opponents were nowhere to be found. I also had a long list of accomplishments as an activist, many of which were listed on my website.

I have also been an elected official - which means you can call me the Honorable Robert Dyer. I not only have work experience, but have operated my own business, unlike everyone on the Council except Sid Katz.

As I recall, AOC was nothing more than a bartender on her resume, and is now the most powerful politician in the country. In short, you just made a complete fool of yourself.

Anonymous said...

How many hours a week did you work when you were on the MoCo GOP Central Committee? Were you actually paid for it? How many votes did you get, and was it actually a contested election? Do you have any testimonials for your service on the Committee?

Anonymous said...

Regarding AOC, it's a bit of a stretch to say that she is "now the most powerful politician in the country". But she is where she is now because people voted for her, and "the majority of them are Communists", as you would say.

You are misinformed if you think that the only job AOC ever held previously was "bartender".

Robert Dyer said...

6:43: More hours than the County Council puts in, that's for sure. As you know from your obsessive online research and stalking of me, it was indeed a contested election, and I finished first in a field of 5, including 3 well known, longtime GOP activists. I not only made major reductions in our budget, but established a new detailed budget report to be handed out each month. You know, exactly the kind of person we need on a Council that has a structural budget deficit. Too bad you're stuck with Clowntown USA instead. Enjoy your tax hike in June!

Robert Dyer said...

6:48: What leadership roles did she hold in organizations, and what were her prior elected offices she held? The media certainly hasn't reported on any.

Anna said...

Comparing youself to AOC?

Hahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahah (breathe) hahahahahahahahahahhahahha. (gasp) Hahahahahahahahahaha (breathe)

Robert Dyer said...

And by the way, I'm not being critical of her resume, because she makes the point that you don't need any experience if you know the issues, and wields more power than many of the folks who are ossifying in their seats in Congress.

I just happen to have more experience than she did, which torches your whole attack on me above.

Anonymous said...

"More hours than the County Council puts in, that's for sure."

Is it possible for you to give a straight answer on anything, Dyer?

Anonymous said...

"Ocasio-Cortez graduated cum laude from Boston University's College of Arts and Sciences in 2011, majoring in international relations and economics.

"After college, Ocasio-Cortez moved back to the Bronx, and worked as a bartender in Manhattan and as a waitress in a taqueria. Her mother, meanwhile, cleaned houses and drove school buses. After her father's death, Ocasio-Cortez and her mother struggled to fight foreclosure of their home. She launched Brook Avenue Press, a publishing firm for books that portray the Bronx in a positive light. She worked as lead educational strategist at GAGEis, Inc. Ocasio-Cortez also worked for the nonprofit National Hispanic Institute (NHI). She served as NHI's Educational Director of the 2017 Northeast Collegiate World Series, a five-day long program targeted at college-bound high school students from across the United States and other countries, where she participated in a panel on Latino leadership.

"In the 2016 primary, Ocasio-Cortez worked as an organizer for Bernie Sanders's 2016 presidential campaign. After the general election, she traveled across America by car, visiting places such as Flint, Michigan, and Standing Rock Indian Reservation in North Dakota, and speaking to people affected by the Flint water crisis and the Dakota Access Pipeline. In an interview, she recalled her visit to Standing Rock as a tipping point, saying that before that, she had believed that the only way to effectively run for office was if you had access to wealth, social influence, and power. But her visit to North Dakota, where she saw others "putting their whole lives and everything that they had on the line for the protection of their community", inspired her to begin to work for her own community."

Beats the heck out of "mumble mumble 'Recording Artist' mumble mumble".

Anonymous said...

And even before that...

"Ocasio-Cortez attended Yorktown High School, graduating in 2007. She came second in the Microbiology category of the Intel International Science and Engineering Fair with a microbiology research project on the effect of antioxidants on the lifespan of the nematode C. elegans. In a show of appreciation for her efforts, the International Astronomical Union named a small asteroid after her: 23238 Ocasio-Cortez. In high school, she took part in the National Hispanic Institute's Lorenzo de Zavala (LDZ) Youth Legislative Session. She later became the LDZ Secretary of State while she attended Boston University. Ocasio-Cortez had a John F. Lopez Fellowship. During college, she served as an intern in the immigration office during the final year of U.S. Senator Ted Kennedy's tenure. "I was the only Spanish speaker, and as a result, as basically a kid—a 19-, 20-year-old kid—whenever a frantic call would come into the office because someone is looking for their husband because they have been snatched off the street by ICE, I was the one that had to pick up that phone," Ocasio-Cortez said. "I was the one that had to help that person navigate that system.""

Anonymous said...

"The buildings are either all empty, or filling with low-desirability tenants at taxpayer-subsidized expense!"

This is an utter lie. Nearly all of the new construction is pre-leased.

Marriott, Host, JBG Smith, Booz Allen, Orano, are low-desirability tenants? What universe do you live in?

Anonymous said...

Members of the Central Committee are simply party hacks. Calling your self an "elected official" is a bit of an exaggeration. Your were elected to be a party hack, not serve the public good.

Anonymous said...

Robert Dyer, November 15, 2006:

"The Washington Post and Gazette are biased. We knew that. But what we found out during this election is that the Post and Gazette are irrelevant. Non factors. Despite their desperate endorsements, many of their candidates lost. Their positions on the ballot questions were overridden by the ones listed on the Democratic Party's sample ballot."

Anonymous said...

"I have operated my own business, unlike everyone on the Council except Sid Katz."

How can an entity that generates no revenue - no sales, no subscriptions, no advertising - be legitimately called a "business"?

Anonymous said...

"I not only made major reductions in our budget, but established a new detailed budget report to be handed out each month."

What areas of the MoCoGOP Central Committee budget did you cut? What was the overall cut to the budget?

"What leadership roles did she hold in organizations, and what were her prior elected offices she held? Fox News and Breitbart certainly haven't reported on any."

Fixed it for you.

Anonymous said...

3:05pm I question the relevance of the Post today. They heavily backed Floreen, but people just didn't trust or want her in leadership. Despite multiple articles each week promoting her.

Anonymous said...

@ 5:36 PM - That's a good point, which goes against Dyer's claim that the Post is solely responsible for his losses to Riemer, Albornoz, Glass and Jawandow in last year's election and to Riemer, Elrich, Floreen and Leventhal in 2014 and 2010.

(Disclosure - I voted for Floreen.)

Robert Dyer said...

7:05/5:36/3:05: The only reason Floreen lost is that it didn't say "Democrat" under her name. She is greatly despised in many neighborhoods around the County for her past actions, comments and threats, not to mention for being a developer tool. Once no longer a Democrat, she was unelectable.

What you've forgotten so quickly, is that David Blair nearly won the primary thanks to the Post. He ran as a Democrat.

Furthermore, the Post under Bezos has unlimited funds and has increased its power. They are not the only reason I lost, but played a major role in my loss.

4:34: Wrong. I've never seen any of the things mentioned here from her resume in the Post, which I read daily.

4:21: LOL - Saul, you've conveniently pretended to forget my music career, which was the first small business I operated. Hired and fired employees, planned and executed projects with strict budgets, sold and marketed merchandise. No one but Sid Katz has done that on the Council.

11:31: Nice try, punk, but central committees are elected offices. Our central committee contributed to the community in both trying to change policies for the better, and in charitable work, just like any other community organization.

7:21: Marriott and JBG were already here - just moving the deck chairs on the Titanic. Booz Allen is NOT headquartered in Bethesda - you're flat out lying, and people are laughing at you. Orano is a good company, but has nowhere near the status of Fortune 500 or Hilton, Volkswagen, Intelsat, Nestle, Gerber, Northrop, or Amazon. If you think they do, you're smoking something.

7:10: I don't have to mumble about my recording career - sorry about yours. I guess that's why you had to go into the self-checkout business. I've been an activist for over a decade, I have 13,000 subscribers on YouTube with NO press coverage or advertising promoting me, and I pioneered hyperlocal news in Montgomery County, spawning a legion of copycats since 2012.

Meanwhile, most of what you've listed for Ocasio-Cortez is college extracurricular activities. No elected offices. No real-world leadership roles. And no notable employment beyond bartender. I've volunteered to answer phones for politicians, but wouldn't claim that qualified my to serve in Congress.

But you're trying to make me argue your side of the debate - my whole point is that I have more experience and qualifications for office (and actually served as an elected official) than she did. So you can't praise her while claiming I'm not qualified to serve on the Podunk Junction MoCo Council. She had no significant experience that traditional operatives like you would claim was a prerequisite, but is performing better in office than others who did have experience.

Anna said...

Wow. When you don't get it, you really, really don't get it.
AOC's motivation is not vengeance for people not voting for family.

Gee...could it be her...youth and personality?

Robert Dyer said...

4:11: I really do get it. I don't claim to have an effervescent personality, but you sound ridiculous trying to claim that finishing our master plan highway system, privatizing alcohol sales and allowing beer & wine to be sold at all grocery/drug/convenience stores, and making MoCo more competitive in economic development in the region are "vengeance for people not voting for family."

Low information voters aren't going to vote for people who weren't written about in the Washington Post or allowed to appear in debates.

Somebody attacked me for a fictional belief that I was lacking in the resume department, and pointing out that AOC has a thin one - the thinnest since Obama's - is a legitimate counterpoint.

Anna said...

Always the victim. Never the victor. That whole "I would have but they wouldn't let me" mindset.

Your argument might have more weight if this area did not have a huge majority of Democrats. Even if you did have all the coverage you could ever want, being a Republican your chances of winning would still be low.

Many of your proposals were not favored by the voters. I don't know what the solution is, but what I have been hearing are folks convinced that current ideas sound like more congestion rather than less.

I only sound ridiculous to you and your minions, real or unsigned.

Robert Dyer said...

5:26: Wrong. Reducing traffic congestion on I-270 and I-495, lowering taxes, attracting high-wage jobs, balancing the budget, allowing beer and wine to be sold in all stores, restoring residents' role in master plans - all of these policies and more have majority support. But few voters knew there was someone on the ballot who would implement these popular proposals.

The "blue wave," and Hogan's reelection, prove that a large percentage of voters are sheep who will do whatever they're told by the media. Such as Fellow Travelers winning in conservative areas of Alabama and Pennsylvania in special elections. They had no chance to win unless a percentage of the "huge majority" of Republicans did what you just claimed Democrats here would not do, all because the media created a narrative.

Instead, the Post engaged in the same "catch and kill" scheme as the National Enquirer, refusing to report on numerous Hans Riemer scandals I forwarded to Jennifer Barrios and Robert McCartney. A clear case of collusion.

Anonymous said...

Montgomery County wasn't the only jurisdiction that dropped several major roads that had been planned in the 1950s and 1960s. Fairfax County did the same.

-"Outer Beltway" became "Fairfax County Parkway", with signalized intersections instead of interchanges.

-Although VA 28 was upgraded to freeway standards, it only extends from VA 7 to I-66.

-I-66 inside the Beltway - originally proposed to be 8 lanes and open to all vehicles. As built, 4 lanes and open only to cars, and HOV only during rush hours.

-"Monticello Freeway" - new highway proposed to connect Shirley Highway in Landmark with US 29 towards Charlottesville.

-"Potomac Freeway" - new highway proposed to be built between the 14th Street Bridge and Woodbridge, parallel to US 1.

-Four-Mile Run Expressway - new road proposed to be built through Four-Mile Run Valley between I-66 in East Falls Church and the new Potomac Freeway and US 1 in Arlandria.

-Pimmit Run Expressway - new road proposed to be built between Chain Bridge and the Dulles Access Road immediately north of I-66.

-Bluemont Expressway - new road proposed to be built between I-66 near Ballston, through Bailey's Crossroads area and connecting with Shirley Highway and the new Monticello Expressway in Landmark.

-"Cross-County Freeway" - circumferential highway proposed to be built midway between the Beltway and the "Outer Beltway

-Van Dorn Street extended - proposed to be extended all the way south to US 1 near Mount Vernon. Currently ends at VA 611.

Anonymous said...

Also the George Washington Parkway between the Beltway and Great Falls on the Virginia side.

Anna said...

You really deleted this? How silly. You can try the "la-la-I-can't-hear-you-la-la-la" way (a la PeeWee Herman), or do a little adulting and learn a thing or two.

Blogger Anna said...

If you're going to go the Fellow Travelers route, this discussion is done.

Conspiracy theories and pure hogwash are the real reason. I can only imagine if you had all the media access you wanted, you would have gotten LESS votes.

Thought we were moving towards a respectful discussion of the issues. But...nope. Pity.

You're in charge of your own destiny. If you're disappointed, you should ask what you've done to bring you to this point, the choices you've made that have caused your reality. Keeping the same choices will deliver the same results.

How people treat you is their karma, how you respond is yours.
How you treat people is your karma, how they respond is theirs.



Researchers have found that crows are fond of playing pranks on one another.

6:11 AM

Robert Dyer said...

5:49: Heckuva word salad. Can't decipher half of it. "Conspiracy theories are the real reason?" The real reason for what?

A Communist sympathizer who isn't a card-carrying Communist is indeed a Fellow Traveler. Facts. That goes for Conor Lamb or Hans Riemer, or whoever we're talking about here.

If I got all the media I wanted - and was entitled to in a republic - I would have won, not lost. When people get a chance to hear my platform, they agree with it.

Instead of threatening people with vague references to karma, imagine what karma has in store for you and your Fellow Travelers on the County Council after ripping off hard-working taxpayers for 20 years for personal, financial and political gain. Better yet, try to exert positive energy and improve our community, instead of advocating for its continued stagnation and corruption.

Anonymous said...

Edited for clarity:

"A Communist sympathizer who isn't a card-carrying Communist is indeed a Fellow Traveler. Facts. That goes for Conor Lamb or Hans Riemer, or whoever we're talking about here."

"Heckuva word salad. Can't decipher half of it."

Anna said...

If that if what you got out of what I wrote, then you need to learn reading comprehension.

Suggesting I use "positive energy"? Like you do? Like you do by calling anyone a Communist sympathizer if they have views differing from your own out-dated opinions?

You can't "threaten" anyone with Karma. All you can do is point it out, and possibly encourage a different path.

Although, you're going to need to explain to ALL your readers why telling you "You're in charge of your own destiny" is a threat.

Perchance if you didn't see everything as a personal attack on you, life wouldn't be kicking you so hard in the backside. Putting up that wall to keep you from being where you want to be. Your bitterness effects no-one but you. Certainly not those you feel have wronged you.

Robert Dyer said...

6:20: A Communist calling other people's political agendas outdated is laughable. The illegal actions taken during the election were seen by all, and can be documented for the appropriate authorities to take action.

Anonymous said...

What's laughable is someone who has never held a job and who has never paid for housing, calling others "Communists".

"The illegal actions taken during the election were seen by all."

Nope. Only you are making that claim, because you're the world's sorest loser. This is not North Carolina or Georgia.

"...and can be documented..."

No, they cannot. Because your only evidence is your vivid imagination.

"...or the appropriate authorities to take action."

And that will never happen because you never ever bother to contact local, state or federal law enforcement agencies regarding your insane conspiracy theories.

Anna said...

Stein, Sperling's moving? I remember when they moved from Jackson Square to Middle Lane.

I see what you mean, 9:55AM. Such a shame. You know what they say about name-calling...it is the last resort of the desperate.

Robert Dyer said...

10:45: It's also a shame when you mix up your personas and use "Anna" to call me a fascist. #Oops That's your Antifa character who is fixated on that.

7:00: Sorry, chump, but the evidence of collusion and fraud is out in the open. You can easily disprove it by presenting to us, for example, a Washington Post article from the 2018 election that discusses my campaign platform, or reports on the general election Council At-Large race. (Hint: There aren't any)

Did MyMCMedia tape its traditional general election Council At-Large debate in 2018? (Hint: Nope)

What organizations besides the Clarksburg Chamber of Commerce held any type of general election Council At-Large debate, candidate forum, or equivalent in 2018? (Hint: None)

Did Post reporter Jennifer Barrios profile my candidacy, quote me in any of her articles on the major issues of the year, or even answer a single one of my messages or emails? (Hint: No)

Best of all, the official election results on the Board of Elections website are available for all to read. They show wild anomalies at multiple precincts, clearly indicating either illegal voting (voter fraud) or tampering with voting machines.

Those were posted by the BOE, not me. How do you explain those anomalies?

In short, the case for a fraudulent election is quite strong. The County dictatorship will finally be exposed. The only thing that we can't prove yet, is how many votes did I actually receive in the election before the totals were altered?

"If it's what you say, I love it." - Donald Trump, Jr.

Anonymous said...

Voters not voting for you /= "wild anomalies".

You raised no campaign funds.

You did not run in a competitive primary.

You have never indicated your employment or other relevant experience. (Anyone can "attend public meetings".)

You received the endorsement of exactly one organization - "Keep Damascus White", er, "Rural".

You posted no campaign signs along local roadways. (Ironic, given your love of signs.)

99% of your campaigning was on your own blog which has only a few hundred readers.

In other words, you were not a serious candidate. Barrios and others had no obligation to report on you.

Robert Dyer said...

4:32: You don't even know the definition of the word "anomaly." It has nothing to do with unpopularity or a lack of campaign funds. If results were bad across the board, there wouldn't be anything to examine. But many precincts had wildly different results from the average.

I don't just "attend" public meetings, I participate, testify at, and report on them on my network of news websites. In many cases, I've been asked to be there by the relevant communities involved.

The fact that you would say "Keep Damascus White" indicates you are aware of their opposition to the MoCo cartel's scheme to urbanize Damascus, and that it has hit a raw nerve for you as a tool for the cartel. Another Freudian slip. Two in just 12 hours, as you spend your weekend trolling my website.

You're correct, I did not litter the roadways with illegal signs. But you just slipped up again, slob - my opponents didn't have signs along roads either, and had less total signs on lawns and businesses countywide than I did. #Oops

You must feel pretty stupid right now.

Your final comment is simply bizarre. Every candidate is a serious candidate and must be covered by the press. The fact that the cartel controls every major endorsement - to the point that the police union endorses Ice-T-style "F-the-Police" anti-cop Democratic candidates over someone who comes out in 10-degree weather to help police keep their retirement health benefits(!!) - does not disqualify those of us who are not corrupt and therefore cannot be endorsed by any of the entities controlled by the cartel.

"In other words," you are a tool for the cartel, and Jennifer Barrios is either a cartel-colluding criminal or the worst political reporter in America.

The truth - and the FBI investigation - is coming, and you'll either have to rage against it from that dark room of yours on the internet like you are this weekend, or from a jail cell with your MoCo political Fellow Travelers.

Anonymous said...

4:32 AM here. How does it salve your fragile ego to imagine that my comment was typed in "a dark room"? The sun had already been up nearly an hour. I note that your own comment of 2:26 AM (5:26 AM EST) was typed well before first light.

Which reminds me...do you have any plans to ever set your blog's clock to the correct time zone?

Anonymous said...

"someone who comes out in 10-degree weather to help police keep their retirement health benefits(!!)"

So you magically stopped the Council from cutting or eliminating police retirement health benefits? When did this happen?

Anonymous said...

"Jennifer Barrios is either a cartel-colluding criminal or the worst political reporter in America."

And you wonder why she doesn't return your calls?

Anna said...

Sigh...there are no "personas" There's just me.

If after all this time you still can't believe me, then you have no business being anywhere near an elected office.

And I see you're back with the complete and totally obvious envy of Ms Barrios.

More evidence of your problem with women.


Anna said...

Blogger Anna said...

6:32AM How humorous...a fascist calling me a Communist.

For as often as you lie, why aren't you better at it by now?

8:52 AM

Anonymous said...

"The police union endorses Ice-T-style "F-the-Police" anti-cop Democratic candidates"

What an insane claim.

Anonymous said...

WARNING: Please swallow all beverages or food in your mouth before you start to read this. Ladies, if you need to tinkle, do so now.

You have been warned...

Saith Dyer: "...Ice-T-style "F-the-Police"..."

Ice-T is awesome in his role as NYPD Detective/Sergeant Odafin Tutuola in "Law and Order: Special Victims Unit".

I suspect that Dyer has confused him with Ice Cube of NWA, who actually performed "F*** The Police" in 1988.

Anna said...

Body Count - "No Lives Matter" (NSFW)

IceT Body Count

Roald said...

I can't wait for Tarnation Bob to cover that song!

Robert Dyer said...

7:52: You've obviously never heard Ice T's "work" with Body Count in 1992, or you would know I was correct. The MoCo cartel needs to brush up on their hip hop history.

7:20: LOL - classic MoCo cartel four Pinocchio statement. You just made a fool of yourself.

Anonymous said...

Classic paranoid and moronic delusion which explains why local journalists don't return your calls.

Anna said...

AOC: as a teenager she won second prize in the Intel International Science and Engineering Fair on the effect of antioxidants In appreciation the International astronomical Union named a small asteroid after her: 23238 Ocasio-Cortez

Anna said...

No, you are not correct about Ice-T, because it was Ice CUBE that did "F*** The Police".
Nice try at deflection, but you were WRONG.

Truth: NWA w/ Ice Cube did "F*** The Police" in 1988

Anna said...

You're confusing it with "Cop Killer" which WAS by Ice-T.

Robert Dyer said...

5:11: I didn't confuse anything - I just combined them together for more devastating effect. It gave a 2 for 1 punch. You probably have trouble parsing the 2nd Amendment, too, like most elected officials in Maryland.

5:06: And the relevance of that here is....?

4:48: Explain which statement you are claiming is a paranoid delusion. There are over 20 different points of argument in the comments above.

Anna said...

5:21 - Expounding on other comments earlier in this thread @ 5:06

Combined together...suureee....that's the excuse you're going with? Sheesh, just admit you made a mistake and move on.

And off you go on another distraction...the 2nd amendment. <--insert eyeroll

Robert Dyer said...

5:33: I didn't make a mistake - you read it as one, just as people misread the 2nd Amendment by running it all together when it is clearly referring to two different points. If Ice-T hadn't had his own anti-police track, you might have been able to argue your point, but you acknowledge he did and it makes my point twice as powerfully.

Anonymous said...

"...just as people misread the 2nd Amendment by running it all together when it is clearly referring to two different points."

Is it possible for you to focus on what is actually said or asks, rather than going into wild and completely irrelevant digressions?

Robert Dyer said...

7:23: Is it possible for you to focus on relevant points brought up in a debate? "Anna" made the same assumption about my statement as some people do about the 2nd Amendment, that it's all one uniform statement when in fact it's making two separate points, Saul Alinsky.

Anonymous said...

Saith Dyer: "4:48: Explain which statement you are claiming is a paranoid delusion. There are over 20 different points of argument in the comments above."

@ 4:48 AM here. I was referring to your response to @ 7:20, which referenced your earlier comment at 5:03 AM:

"The police union endorses Ice-T-style "F-the-Police" anti-cop Democratic candidates"

I agree with @ 7:20 AM - that is an utterly insane claim - a paranoid delusion.

Anonymous said...

Dyer @ 7:32 AM:

Here is what you said first: "I didn't confuse anything - I just combined them together for more devastating effect. It gave a 2 for 1 punch. You probably have trouble parsing the 2nd Amendment, too, like most elected officials in Maryland."

This is what you said in your subsequent comment: "I didn't make a mistake - you read it as one, just as people misread the 2nd Amendment by running it all together when it is clearly referring to two different points."

Your first comment clearly didn't explain the relevance of the 2nd Amendment to this discussion.

And it's still not clear how your confusing two very different songs from two different hip-hop artists - claiming that Ice-T's criticism specifically of police shootings of innocent suspects, was the same as Ice Cube's universal condemnation of the police, relates to two clauses in the 2nd Amendment. As well as your insane claim that "The police union endorses Ice-T [sic - should have been Ice Cube]-style "F-the-Police" anti-cop Democratic candidates".

Robert Dyer said...

7:49: It's insane that the police union endorsed anti-police candidates, and not the candidate who came out in ten-degree weather to testify to save the retirement health benefits for police officers? I couldn't agree more. It's a factual matter - paranoid delusion is something that didn't happen. Think about it.

7:58: I didn't confuse them, I referred to 2 different anti-police songs whose artists both have "Ice" in their names, in one statement.

It's a convenient dodge for you to focus on your own misreading, Saul Alinsky style, rather than the cartel control of police unions endorsing anti-police politicians (who have already falsely accused MoCo officers of racial profiling multiple times since December alone).

Anonymous said...

Saith Dyer: "I didn't confuse them, I referred to 2 different anti-police songs whose artists both have "Ice" in their names."

No, you didn't. Here is what you actually wrote:

"The police union endorses Ice-T-style "F-the-Police" anti-cop Democratic candidates"

You didn't refer to "2 different anti-police songs". You referred to ONE song, and attributed it to an artist who was not the one who released that song.

Anonymous said...

Here is the police disability pension issue from 2008-09 to which Dyer refers:

Montgomery County Council members said yesterday that the government's disability retirement system for police officers is broken and ripe for potential abuse.

Council members were responding to an inspector general's report this week that found more than 60 percent of police officers who retired in the past four years are collecting disability benefits, including senior managers who have gone on to other law enforcement jobs.

Council member Phil Andrews (D-Gaithersburg-Rockville) said that the system is unduly influenced by labor unions that have veto power over the doctors and arbitrators who determine an employee's eligibility to collect disability benefits.

"That doesn't strike me as the best way to get an independent opinion," said Andrews, who leads the Public Safety Committee and is often critical of union influence. "Appellants should not be able to pick their judges."

Andrews and council member Duchy Trachtenberg (D-At Large) said they would act quickly to introduce legislation to ensure independent review of disability claims, give county officials the ability to deny benefits to officers involved in wrongdoing and create a smaller partial disability benefit.

Council member Marc Elrich (D-At Large) suggested that elected officials were responsible for setting up a system that "incentivizes people to take advantage. That's different than gaming the system," he said. "We've all signed off on this."

Retirees eligible for service-related disability receive two-thirds of their previous salary tax free for life. Officers who retire without disability after 25 years generally receive about 60 percent of their salaries, and the standard retirement benefit dips significantly when a retiree begins to collect Social Security.

The inspector general's report criticized county officials for lax oversight, including limited use of routine physical exams to assess the health of current officers. He also faulted county officials for a decision to stop giving disabled retirees annual checkups to determine whether their conditions have changed.

Thomas D. Evans, who was acting police chief in 1999, called the situation "scandalous" and urged county leaders to fix it. Evans retired after 25 years with bumps and bruises from making arrests. But he said in a letter to Leggett and council members that he "would not have even considered spinning that into a disability retirement."

Evans said he knows of officers who have retired on disability and gone on to work in law enforcement, as rodeo bull wrestlers or roofers.

"What we don't want is a system that allows people with your typical age-related conditions to misuse the system," Evans wrote. "All of us deteriorate to some degree as we age. That does not mean we should get a large tax-free income for life."

Robert Dyer said...

4:32: No, I referred to two different anti-police artists in the same sentence, one by name, and one by song title, you moron. Do you have mental illness that you just keep repeating yourself belligerently. People can see what I typed earlier, and they're concerned about your mental health.

4:41: Not surprisingly, you've only given the MoCo cartel side of the story, much as the cartel-controlled Gazette did. I'm actually familiar with attempts to take these benefits away in other jurisdictions like the District. Ultimately, the Council was never able to produce evidence of a single legitimate fraud by a police officer, It was a hoax to funnel money from police to developers, after smearing officers with fake claims of gaming the system.

Another example of our soft-on-crime, Ice-T wannabe anti-police County Council.

Anonymous said...

"No, I referred to two different anti-police artists in the same sentence, one by name, and one by song title, you moron. Do you have mental illness that you just keep repeating yourself belligerently."

No, you are just so insecure that you can never, ever, admit that you were wrong. Whether from insecurity, delusion, or a combination of the two.

"It was a hoax to funnel money from police to developers"

Oh, please. You're getting crazier and crazier.

Anna said...

You made a mistake and are furiously back-pedaling.

Out of the clear blue sky you likened this mistake to the second amendment. Why?

a) no one mentioned the 2nd amendment except you...as a distraction to your error
b) You have no idea what my take (or anyone else's reading here) on the 2nd amendment. To infer anything else is more LYING.

Like you have any idea what T is thinking or supports. If you ever saw Straight Outta Compton you wouldn't have mixed up these two OGs. I sure hope none of their fanbases get mad at you.

Robert Dyer said...

4:47: LOL - Ice T was promoting the murder of police officers in 1992. Which alternative reality are you in?

The 2nd Amendment comparison couldn't be more clear - your mistaken assumption that you cannot refer to two different things in a single statement. Just as many people read the 2nd Amendment the wrong way, so did you misread my statement about anti-police recording artists.

4:46: Taking disability funds from police officers to give a $72 million tax cut to developers in 2010 actually happened. YOU are the crazy person here for claiming otherwise.

Anna said...

Still backpedaling.

You made a mistake. Deal with it.

Everyone read it, everyone realized it, and everyone will forever know it.
All you're doing is making yourself look weak and ashamed, and quite the narcissist.

A malignant narcissist is unable to feel shame, guilt, or contrition. It's not difficult, he simply CAN'T.



Robert Dyer said...

5:53: You're the one who initially confirmed I was correct in noting Ice-T's prior promotion of murdering police officers on his Body Count album. Now you want to turn around and claim I was wrong? LOL - Can we speak to "Wrol Evans" now? Can "Dennis" have the light next?

Everyone read my powerful comment, and except for you, shared my astonishment regarding the union endorsing anti-cop candidates over pro-police candidates who have a long record of supporting Montgomery's finest when the rubber meets the road. Not just at endorsement time.

Anna said...

Distraction again.

You made an incorrect comment and refuse to admit it.

Like a five-year old with chocolate icing on his face declaring he did not eat the cake.

It's.that.obvious.

Nope. I'm just me. Posting as me, Anna. Over 2 years you've been accusing me of something I'm not. That's a real long time for a delusion. Maybe you should bring this up with your therapist?

I'm not really comfortable with you thinking about me 24/7.

Robert Dyer said...

6:14: A person thinking about me 24/7 believes I'm thinking of him 24/7. Makes sense. No therapist here, but the couple of trolls who comment here could use one.

Anna said...

Keep singling me out. Because THAT doesn't make you look stalkerish. No, not at all.