The long-delayed 8008 Wisconsin project is finally going to the Montgomery County Planning Board on Thursday, July 28. It will include 106 luxury condos with 15% affordable units (with overall residential square footage being slightly reduced), and 5793 SF of retail/restaurant space (a slight increase from the original 4500 SF restaurant space).
Developer Toll Brothers City Living is paying a fee to renovate Battery Lane Park in lieu of public space on the 8008 Wisconsin Avenue site. The delay was caused primarily by Montgomery County's insane insistence that original developer Douglas Development hand over a chunk of the land along Wisconsin for a Bus Rapid Transit right-of-way. What made the demand truly insane, is that such a right-of-way cannot be continued all the way down to Bethesda Avenue as the County has claimed. There are multiple buildings in the way that won't be demolished, including the historic Bethesda Theatre (which can't be demolished).
Planners are recommending approval of the project with conditions. Some of those conditions, not surprisingly, involve the land grab along Wisconsin.
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Monday, July 25, 2016
Friday, April 15, 2016
The WMAL transmitter site in Bethesda - as you've never seen it before (Video)
Check out this drone video of the WMAL transmitter site on Greentree Road in Bethesda. It will be gone in a couple of years, if the Montgomery County Planning Board approves the Toll Brothers residential project planned to replace it.
The towers will be relocated to Germantown.
Photo: Robert Dyer
The towers will be relocated to Germantown.
Photo: Robert Dyer
Sunday, April 10, 2016
Toll Bros. unveils plan for WMAL site; residents want data on traffic, schools (Photos)
Representatives of Toll Brothers promised to deliver a "rich and varied neighborhood" filled with winding trails, forests and a clubhouse with pool and fitness center on the WMAL transmitter site in Bethesda yesterday morning, at a community meeting held in the North Bethesda Middle School cafeteria.
328 units will be split between single-family homes and townhomes, with 42 affordable units. It will be a "neighborhood designed around the pedestrian," they said. Residents who packed the room were more concerned about the other way of getting around - cars - and how they would impact already-congested roads nearby. The site is located at 7115 Greentree Road.
What will be done about the "traffic that's gonna get dumped onto Greentree, Newbold [Drive], Michaels [Drive] and other neighborhood streets" like Fernwood Road, one resident asked. Nancy Randall, principal associate with Wells & Associates, said the traffic study has not been completed yet. "How many automobiles?" asked another resident. Randall said the estimates show 209 additional peak A.M. trips, and 271 peak P.M. trips, would be generated by the new development. "Oh, come on!" shouted an incredulous resident from the back of the room.
One resident noted that the existing neighborhood is not within easy walking distance of any retail or restaurants, which will encourage heavy use of automobiles. Another resident of Greentree said the light at Michaels and Fernwood is already bad. Now, "you're adding another 300 homes." Randall said many options are on the table, including shuttle buses and traffic calming on nearby streets like Greyswood.
A resident of Burdette Road asked if the study would take into account further-away intersections that would be impacted by the additional traffic. He said drivers would likely be seeking to access the Beltway via Burdette Road to River Road, or via Old Georgetown Road. Randall said the study wouldn't extend that far, but would examine intersections like Bradley Boulevard and Burdette, and Democracy Boulevard and Fernwood Road. She said the "layer cake" study Toll is perfoming will not only take into account the traffic impact of its project, but also existing developments, and developments that have been approved but not necessarily built yet.
Resident Brian Thompson said he wanted to second an earlier humorous suggestion to rename Fernwood "Fernlock" for its notorious traffic. "I plan my day around the gridlock on Fernwood," Thompson said.
"I must officially object to you not reporting to us on the traffic plan," another resident said during the question portion of the meeting. With the traffic study being submitted at the same time as the site plan, he said, "we won't have time to look at it." He added that with the proposal to open access via Renita Lane to fire and rescue traffic, and possibly general traffic, "you will have fatalities on that winding road." That proposal actually came from Montgomery County Fire and Rescue, not from Toll Brothers.
"Will you have a [traffic] meeting?" he asked. "I can't commit to Toll Brothers having a meeting," said Adeyinka Ogunlegan, VP of public policy and outreach for Chesapeake Public Strategies, a government and public affairs firm retained by Toll. A hissing sound came from the back of the room.
"Where's the boss?!" someone shouted. "If he's here, why don't you let him come up and talk about it?" he challenged. On cue, Toll Brothers VP John Harris rose from his seat. "I'm the boss, and we will be glad to have another meeting with you," Harris said to applause. Several Toll representatives also promised to provide an email link to residents who signed up for the mailing list (you can get on the list at the project website).
Schools were also a concern, with existing overcrowding in the Walter Johnson cluster. Wendy Calhoun, who will become coordinator for that cluster next year, said the Montgomery County Board of Education had recognized a "deficit of soccer fields since 1978," and requested two fields be built. "I don't see that on this site," she said.
The applicant's attorney, Erica Leatham of Ballard Spahr, LLP, said if a County agency wishes to use 5 acres Toll will make available to the County for purchase for soccer, they have that option. That area is denoted on the map at top in red, at the bottom left corner.
A resident of Brixton Lane termed his children's schools "ridiculously-overcrowded already. How many kids" will the Toll Brothers project generate, he asked.
Some attendees felt the number of homes planned was excessive, with one terming it a "sardine style" development plan. Resident Martha Lewis observed that when she looks at the plan, "it looks like massively-packed houses, as high as you can possibly pack them in."
Construction will be phased due to stormwater management regulations, and will begin at the northern part of the site first. Toll Brothers hopes construction will begin in Fall 2018, and last until 2022. During that time, residents will be able to contact a construction representative with concerns. Greyswood and Fernwood will be bonded for any construction damage from large trucks or heavy equipment during the construction process. A sound barrier will protect homes at the north end from noise generated by the I-270 spur. The existing Beltway sound barrier will be extended west along the south end of the property.
Several residents asked about the environmental impact of developing such a large green space. Toll Brothers assured them that stormwater management after the completion of the project will be "better than it is now, better for the Cheasapeake Bay." Resident Nancy Neff was skeptical. "I am offended by you patting yourselves on the back" for the bioswale plan to manage stormwater. "The best natural drainage is there
right now," she said. She cited the "appalling" drainage systems in King Farm in Rockville, which cause some homes in that community to flood regularly.
"I can assure you, Toll Brothers communities do not have flooded basements." said Tom Mateya, Toll Brothers' Director of Land Development.
328 units will be split between single-family homes and townhomes, with 42 affordable units. It will be a "neighborhood designed around the pedestrian," they said. Residents who packed the room were more concerned about the other way of getting around - cars - and how they would impact already-congested roads nearby. The site is located at 7115 Greentree Road.
What will be done about the "traffic that's gonna get dumped onto Greentree, Newbold [Drive], Michaels [Drive] and other neighborhood streets" like Fernwood Road, one resident asked. Nancy Randall, principal associate with Wells & Associates, said the traffic study has not been completed yet. "How many automobiles?" asked another resident. Randall said the estimates show 209 additional peak A.M. trips, and 271 peak P.M. trips, would be generated by the new development. "Oh, come on!" shouted an incredulous resident from the back of the room.
One resident noted that the existing neighborhood is not within easy walking distance of any retail or restaurants, which will encourage heavy use of automobiles. Another resident of Greentree said the light at Michaels and Fernwood is already bad. Now, "you're adding another 300 homes." Randall said many options are on the table, including shuttle buses and traffic calming on nearby streets like Greyswood.
A resident of Burdette Road asked if the study would take into account further-away intersections that would be impacted by the additional traffic. He said drivers would likely be seeking to access the Beltway via Burdette Road to River Road, or via Old Georgetown Road. Randall said the study wouldn't extend that far, but would examine intersections like Bradley Boulevard and Burdette, and Democracy Boulevard and Fernwood Road. She said the "layer cake" study Toll is perfoming will not only take into account the traffic impact of its project, but also existing developments, and developments that have been approved but not necessarily built yet.
Resident Brian Thompson said he wanted to second an earlier humorous suggestion to rename Fernwood "Fernlock" for its notorious traffic. "I plan my day around the gridlock on Fernwood," Thompson said.
"I must officially object to you not reporting to us on the traffic plan," another resident said during the question portion of the meeting. With the traffic study being submitted at the same time as the site plan, he said, "we won't have time to look at it." He added that with the proposal to open access via Renita Lane to fire and rescue traffic, and possibly general traffic, "you will have fatalities on that winding road." That proposal actually came from Montgomery County Fire and Rescue, not from Toll Brothers.
"Will you have a [traffic] meeting?" he asked. "I can't commit to Toll Brothers having a meeting," said Adeyinka Ogunlegan, VP of public policy and outreach for Chesapeake Public Strategies, a government and public affairs firm retained by Toll. A hissing sound came from the back of the room.
"Where's the boss?!" someone shouted. "If he's here, why don't you let him come up and talk about it?" he challenged. On cue, Toll Brothers VP John Harris rose from his seat. "I'm the boss, and we will be glad to have another meeting with you," Harris said to applause. Several Toll representatives also promised to provide an email link to residents who signed up for the mailing list (you can get on the list at the project website).
Schools were also a concern, with existing overcrowding in the Walter Johnson cluster. Wendy Calhoun, who will become coordinator for that cluster next year, said the Montgomery County Board of Education had recognized a "deficit of soccer fields since 1978," and requested two fields be built. "I don't see that on this site," she said.
The applicant's attorney, Erica Leatham of Ballard Spahr, LLP, said if a County agency wishes to use 5 acres Toll will make available to the County for purchase for soccer, they have that option. That area is denoted on the map at top in red, at the bottom left corner.
A resident of Brixton Lane termed his children's schools "ridiculously-overcrowded already. How many kids" will the Toll Brothers project generate, he asked.
Leatham said Montgomery County Public Schools calculates those projections, and they have concluded 152 students will be generated. That number was met with laughter in the room. "Can we get realistic numbers?" someone asked. "Isn't this the same MCPS that allowed overcrowding" in the past with lowball projections, another asked. "I can't argue with you," Leatham replied. "These are numbers that have been vetted. These are the numbers we have to use."
Future residents will "pay a million dollars for a home, and their kids will go to school in a trailer," one resident said.
Some attendees felt the number of homes planned was excessive, with one terming it a "sardine style" development plan. Resident Martha Lewis observed that when she looks at the plan, "it looks like massively-packed houses, as high as you can possibly pack them in."
Construction will be phased due to stormwater management regulations, and will begin at the northern part of the site first. Toll Brothers hopes construction will begin in Fall 2018, and last until 2022. During that time, residents will be able to contact a construction representative with concerns. Greyswood and Fernwood will be bonded for any construction damage from large trucks or heavy equipment during the construction process. A sound barrier will protect homes at the north end from noise generated by the I-270 spur. The existing Beltway sound barrier will be extended west along the south end of the property.
Several residents asked about the environmental impact of developing such a large green space. Toll Brothers assured them that stormwater management after the completion of the project will be "better than it is now, better for the Cheasapeake Bay." Resident Nancy Neff was skeptical. "I am offended by you patting yourselves on the back" for the bioswale plan to manage stormwater. "The best natural drainage is there
right now," she said. She cited the "appalling" drainage systems in King Farm in Rockville, which cause some homes in that community to flood regularly.
"I can assure you, Toll Brothers communities do not have flooded basements." said Tom Mateya, Toll Brothers' Director of Land Development.
Green space includes connected trails, forested areas, and "The Green," in the center of the development |
Bioswales will capture stormwater throughout the site |
Packed house at 10:00 AM on a Saturday, reflecting the depth of community concerns about the project |
Timeline of the project |
Resident Rachel Berdansky listens as Toll Brothers representatives try to answer her question |
Friday, March 25, 2016
Toll Brothers to host public meeting on WMAL property preliminary plan April 9
Developer Toll Brothers has announced it will be hosting a community meeting regarding their preliminary plan for the WMAL tower site in Bethesda on Saturday, April 9 at 10:00 AM at North Bethesda Middle School (8935 Bradmoor Drive). Mark Nosal, President of Toll Brothers' Maryland Division, says the preliminary plan will detail the configuration of lots, roads and public space within the development.
Landscaping and amenities will be fleshed out at a future planning stage, Nosal said. The plan that will be unveiled will reflect the ten months of public input Toll Brothers has received, he said, as well as feedback from Montgomery County Government.
The site at 7115 Greentree Road houses four transmitters for WMAL Radio in a partially-forested, parklike setting surrounded by single-family residential neighborhoods. There is limited road access to the site, expected to be remedied by connecting Greentree Road with Greyswood Road, as suggested by an earlier master plan. How Greyswood Road residents might feel about that is another story.
It will be interesting to see the final mix of housing types proposed. At a meeting last year, Toll Brothers predicted there would be a 50/50 mix of single-family houses and townhomes, with 330 homes altogether. Current residents have raised several concerns, including already-overcrowded schools in the Walter Johnson cluster, and traffic, given the overwhelmingly auto-oriented nature of the site.
WMAL is expected to relocate its transmitters to Germantown if the development is approved.
Landscaping and amenities will be fleshed out at a future planning stage, Nosal said. The plan that will be unveiled will reflect the ten months of public input Toll Brothers has received, he said, as well as feedback from Montgomery County Government.
The site at 7115 Greentree Road houses four transmitters for WMAL Radio in a partially-forested, parklike setting surrounded by single-family residential neighborhoods. There is limited road access to the site, expected to be remedied by connecting Greentree Road with Greyswood Road, as suggested by an earlier master plan. How Greyswood Road residents might feel about that is another story.
It will be interesting to see the final mix of housing types proposed. At a meeting last year, Toll Brothers predicted there would be a 50/50 mix of single-family houses and townhomes, with 330 homes altogether. Current residents have raised several concerns, including already-overcrowded schools in the Walter Johnson cluster, and traffic, given the overwhelmingly auto-oriented nature of the site.
WMAL is expected to relocate its transmitters to Germantown if the development is approved.
Thursday, February 25, 2016
8008 Wisconsin project improved by Toll Brothers in Bethesda (Photos)
Many aspects of the 8008 Wisconsin mixed-use project in downtown Bethesda will remain the same under new developer Toll Brothers City Living. But where it counts, the new plan is an upgrade for the Woodmont Triangle neighborhood, with the additional retail square footage added.
Attorney Emily Vaias represented Toll Brothers at a public meeting on the project last night at the Bethesda-Chevy Chase Regional Services Center. The property in question currently holds several structures along Wisconsin, Cordell and Woodmont Avenues, including the "Beer House" and a vacant surplus store.
As you can see in the above schematic, there is now going to be retail space fronting the Wisconsin Avenue side of the building (the red colored section). Original developer Douglas Development had planned to rely on the lobby to activate the street along Wisconsin, an idea panned by some in the neighborhood.
In addition to the much-needed added retail, Toll Brothers is also adding more parking. The underground garage will now be three levels. Douglas had counted on a parking exemption, due to the site's location in the urban parking district.
As I previously reported, now that Toll Brothers is taking the building condo rather than rentals, the number of units will decrease to 106, while the square footage of each unit will increase. The typical unit size has not yet been determined, however.
What is known, is that the building will be 39% 1 bedroom/1 bedroom+den, 52% 2 bedroom/2 bedroom+den, and 8.5% 3 bedroom units. There will be 16 MPDUs for affordable housing.
You may recall that County officials obsessed with the foolish Bus Rapid Transit proposal arbitrarily tried to extort concessions from Douglas, holding up the project for many months. Toll Brothers now inherits the building geometry eventually agreed to by Douglas. It's unclear how much of a role the County's interference played in Douglas' sudden sale of the property to Toll Brothers in December.
The architect is still WDG, and the renderings of the building will look familiar to anyone who was following the Douglas iteration of the 14-story building.
Vaias said Toll is going to file the project's site plan, and an amendment, with the Montgomery County Planning Department in the next 30-60 days. She said they hope to have a hearing before the Planning Board in June or July. With timely approvals, construction could begin in the second quarter of 2017.
In other Toll Brothers City Living news, the developer announced last night that its Hampden Row project is now expected to deliver in January 2017.
Attorney Emily Vaias represented Toll Brothers at a public meeting on the project last night at the Bethesda-Chevy Chase Regional Services Center. The property in question currently holds several structures along Wisconsin, Cordell and Woodmont Avenues, including the "Beer House" and a vacant surplus store.
As you can see in the above schematic, there is now going to be retail space fronting the Wisconsin Avenue side of the building (the red colored section). Original developer Douglas Development had planned to rely on the lobby to activate the street along Wisconsin, an idea panned by some in the neighborhood.
In addition to the much-needed added retail, Toll Brothers is also adding more parking. The underground garage will now be three levels. Douglas had counted on a parking exemption, due to the site's location in the urban parking district.
As I previously reported, now that Toll Brothers is taking the building condo rather than rentals, the number of units will decrease to 106, while the square footage of each unit will increase. The typical unit size has not yet been determined, however.
What is known, is that the building will be 39% 1 bedroom/1 bedroom+den, 52% 2 bedroom/2 bedroom+den, and 8.5% 3 bedroom units. There will be 16 MPDUs for affordable housing.
You may recall that County officials obsessed with the foolish Bus Rapid Transit proposal arbitrarily tried to extort concessions from Douglas, holding up the project for many months. Toll Brothers now inherits the building geometry eventually agreed to by Douglas. It's unclear how much of a role the County's interference played in Douglas' sudden sale of the property to Toll Brothers in December.
The architect is still WDG, and the renderings of the building will look familiar to anyone who was following the Douglas iteration of the 14-story building.
Vaias said Toll is going to file the project's site plan, and an amendment, with the Montgomery County Planning Department in the next 30-60 days. She said they hope to have a hearing before the Planning Board in June or July. With timely approvals, construction could begin in the second quarter of 2017.
In other Toll Brothers City Living news, the developer announced last night that its Hampden Row project is now expected to deliver in January 2017.
Thursday, February 18, 2016
Bethesda construction update: Hampden Row condos (Photos)
Toll Brothers City Living's Hampden Row luxury condo project is now several stories above ground level. When completed, the building at the corner of Hampden Lane and Arlington Road will hold 55 condo units, a rooftop terrace and fitness center, bicycle storage, and a 24-hour lobby. Units are already on-sale in the sales office across Hampden Lane from the construction site.
Wednesday, February 10, 2016
Another public meeting for 8008 Wisconsin project, now with more retail space
There have been lots of meetings regarding the long-delayed 8008 Wisconsin project in downtown Bethesda's Woodmont Triangle. And now, there's another.
New landowner Toll Brothers City Living will likely be detailing what changes it plans for the 14-story residential building first proposed by Douglas Development. 8008 has been stalled for more than a year after Montgomery County made some arbitrary demands of Douglas for a Bus Rapid Transit right-of-way that can't possibly be extended all the way to Bethesda Avenue as proposed.
The latest description of the project is a 115-unit mixed-use tower with up to 6195 SF of retail space. Those who are concerned about activating the streetscape will note the retail/restaurant space has increased by about 1,400 SF from the original Douglas proposal.
Plan to attend the public meeting on Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 6:30 PM at the Bethesda-Chevy Chase Regional Services Center at 4805 Edgemoor Lane.
New landowner Toll Brothers City Living will likely be detailing what changes it plans for the 14-story residential building first proposed by Douglas Development. 8008 has been stalled for more than a year after Montgomery County made some arbitrary demands of Douglas for a Bus Rapid Transit right-of-way that can't possibly be extended all the way to Bethesda Avenue as proposed.
The latest description of the project is a 115-unit mixed-use tower with up to 6195 SF of retail space. Those who are concerned about activating the streetscape will note the retail/restaurant space has increased by about 1,400 SF from the original Douglas proposal.
Plan to attend the public meeting on Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 6:30 PM at the Bethesda-Chevy Chase Regional Services Center at 4805 Edgemoor Lane.
Tuesday, February 02, 2016
Toll Brothers buys 8008 Wisconsin from Douglas Development in Bethesda
Development giant Toll Brothers has concluded there is plenty of demand in Bethesda for its City Living brand of urban luxury condo living. The company has just acquired its second downtown Bethesda site, 8008 Wisconsin Avenue, from Douglas Development. Toll Brothers City Living's first Bethesda project, Hampden Row, is currently under construction at Arlington Road and Hampden Lane.
This is a significant real estate story for two reasons. First, Douglas had been pondering switching its plan for 140 apartments on that site to condos. Now we know this will be condos. And second, it's surprising that Douglas would punt on this project. Unless you think the condo market is weakening in 20814, of course.
The Toll Brothers units will clearly be larger than what Douglas planned - there will be only 100 units now, rather than the 130-140 rental apartments originally envisioned. Amenities will include a 24/7 manned lobby, concierge services, the now-mandatory rooftop terrace, a fitness center and an underground parking garage. The building's height will remain 14 stories, and there is no word yet on what the building's retail/restaurant square footage will be. Douglas had planned a restaurant for the corner of Cordell and Woodmont Avenues.
"With the strong interest we are seeing at Hampden Row, our first Bethesda Toll Brothers City Living building, we are extremely excited to be expanding our City Living brand in the highly-desirable Bethesda market, while further increasing the Toll Brothers urban footprint in the DC metro area,” Toll Brothers CEO Douglas C. Yearley, Jr said yesterday.
And Toll Brothers may not be done yet in Bethesda. The company's City Living and Apartment Living divisions have several projects underway in the region, and Toll says it is eager to acquire additional sites. "With significant capital on hand, we are positioned to close quickly on deals in primary urban locations,” Thomas Mulvey, President of Toll Brothers City Living said Monday. “The new acquisition on Wisconsin Avenue is a prime example and we are actively looking for more development sites to complement it.”
Toll expects construction at 8008 Wisconsin to begin in the summer of 2017, with the first sales of units to begin that winter. Douglas ran into numerous delays with its original development plan for this site, previously home to a venerable surplus store and the "beer house" at the corner of Cordell and Woodmont. The holdup was the bizarre and arbitrary attempt by Montgomery County to take part of the 8008 property to create right-of-way for a proposed Bus Rapid Transit line along Wisconsin Avenue.
The problem is, a right-of-way of that greater width (which the County claims would run from Battery Lane to Bethesda Avenue) could never be built! It is not only blocked by recently-constructed residential and commercial buildings on Wisconsin, but also the historic Bethesda Theatre, which is currently operating as the Bethesda Blues & Jazz Supper Club.
How about the downtown Bethesda condo market?
JBG's new 7770 Norfolk building recently switched back from condos to apartments and will begin leasing this month. The Lauren, Stonehall and Cheval Bethesda are all under construction now, and Redfin shows 10 units available at The Darcy. And there are more to come.
Monday, December 07, 2015
Toll Bros. asking to move Hampden Row project 3' closer to City Homes/Edgemoor condos in Bethesda
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Hampden Row construction site, with existing homes on northern property line at right |
The developer is also seeking to increase the on-site public use space from 2,174 square feet to 2,233 square feet, increase the on-site active and passive use space from 6,077 square feet to 7,849 square feet, and for unspecified minor adjustments to the green roof, micro-bioretention areas, sidewalks and landscaping.
The Board will take up the request at its December 17 meeting. Planning staff are recommending approval of the Site Plan Amendment.
Thursday, December 03, 2015
Bethesda construction update: Hampden Row luxury condos (Photos)
Construction at the Toll Brothers City Living project known as Hampden Row is still in the early stages. When completed, the building at the corner of Hampden Lane and Arlington Road will hold 55 condo units, rooftop terrace and fitness center, bicycle storage, and a 24-hour lobby. Units are already on-sale in the sales office across Hampden Lane from the construction site.
Tuesday, September 22, 2015
Toll Brothers unveils potential plans for WMAL site in Bethesda (Photos)
330 homes could
replace radio
transmitters
A Toll Brothers representative presented the development firm's early plans for the WMAL transmitter site at 7115 Greentree Road in Bethesda to the Western Montgomery County Citizens Advisory Board last night. Tom Mateya, the company's Director of Development, was introduced by Ellen Bogage of Chespeake Public Strategies, the firm hired by Toll to represent it in the community.
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2 potential development schemes for the WMAL site |
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2 more potential configurations |
The firm has already done some geological and utility studies at the 75 acre WMAL site. Water, electric and gas service have been examined. Sewer and water were determined to be adequate in preliminary reviews, but Toll is aware of a 35-foot WSSC pipe section nearby which developer EYA is having difficulty with at their Rock Spring townhome site.
15% of the site is currently forested, and Toll Brothers wants to retain that. Many nearby residents have long used the site as an unofficial park, and have expressed concern about losing the green space. Advisory Board member Tara Flynn asked what plans the firm has to retain any of the green space, and who would control it, HOAs or the County. Mateya said they may reserve some space, potentially for parks and/or a school site. It would be up to the County how they would want to utilize it under that scenario, he said. Toll remains undecided on whether or not to include meeting or recreational facilities for the new community's residents, Mateya said. The company will ultimately decide based upon what it perceives as the current market demand for such shared facilities by its target homebuying audience.
Board member Scott Goldberg asked if pre-settlement solar energy would be utilized in the development. Mateya said there is no demand for solar in this area.
The biggest challenges Toll is dealing with on this project are schools, parks and transportation. Montgomery County planners and Montgomery County Public Schools recently hosted a school capacity community meeting to discuss overcrowding in the Walter Johnson school cluster, which a representative of the West Fernwood community last night said cannot hold another student at the moment. That meeting followed a Rock Spring redevelopment meeting at which residents pushed back on adding residential in an area with already-overcapacity schools.
Virginia Miller, the Board's resident representative, predicted there will be complaints if kids from the same neighborhood are forced to attend different schools. Yet, some Ashburton parents were pushing for redistricting at the aforementioned recent school capacity meeting.
Toll forecasts .575 K-12 students per home, meaning a potential generation of 189 students at the WMAL site. Those first students would arrive in either 2018 or 2019, as the first residents settle in the new neighborhood, Toll estimates.
Transportation is a major concern for nearby residents, but few feasible options exist. Board member John Bowis asked if a direct connection with Democracy Boulevard was possible. Mateya said that, while it is theoretically possible, and that Toll Brothers is still studying such a road, it is not likely. Stratton Park and a Bethesda Fire Department station stand in the way, and there would be engineering challenges regarding turn ratios and adequate space, he said.
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WMAL site, with Greyswood Road stub at center-right |
Mateya said that the company will submit its concept plan for the WMAL site to the Planning Board in November, and a preliminary subdivision plan in January 2016.
Concept plan renderings courtesy Torti Gallas and Partners
All rights reserved
Top photo of WMAL towers: Robert Dyer
Map via Google Maps
Thursday, September 10, 2015
Nighttime work at Toll Brothers Hampden Row project (Photos)
Work continued in the dark of night Wednesday at the Hampden Row condo project, from Toll Brothers' City Living division. A flagger was out on Hampden Lane to direct traffic.
Hampden Row will feature 55 luxury condos when completed.
Friday, August 14, 2015
Bethesda construction update: Hampden Row luxury condos (Photos)
Hampden Row, a luxury condominium project being developed by Toll Brothers City Living, is still in the excavation phase at the corner of Hampden Lane and Arlington Road. The 55-unit building will offer condos from 800 to 3000 SF, and is expected to deliver in late 2016.
Toll Brothers is in most direct competition with neighboring project, The Lauren, and Stonehall Bethesda across town. The Darcy and 7770 Norfolk are also luxury condo buildings; the Darcy is already open, and 7770 Norfolk is expected to welcome its first residents late this year.
One thing I gotta know - what's up with the giant cocktail parasol down in the pit?
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