Monday, June 18, 2018

Westfield moving forward with massive development on Montgomery Mall property

Addition includes
retail, a hotel and
apartments

Sooner than expected, Westfield is advancing plans to redevelop parts of its Westfield Montgomery Mall property in Bethesda. The international mall operator is preparing to submit plans to Montgomery County for 370,492 SF of new retail and hotel space, and a 682-unit apartment building.

Jim Agliata, Vice President of Development at Westfield, had promised that a future 400,000 SF addition to the mall would be more like Bethesda Row than the current indoor mall. However, few were expecting a major development like this to move forward so soon.

There will be great community interest in the traffic and school impacts of this project, on top of the massive WMAL Toll Brothers development nearby, and on how Westfield will manage parking once this is built. The mall already has a parking crunch during prime shopping periods as it is. Westfield recently relocated the mall's transit center to make room for future development.

A public meeting regarding the new development is scheduled for this Wednesday, June 20, 2018, at 7:00 PM in the Walter Johnson High School All-Purpose room at 6400 Rock Spring Drive.

60 comments:

Anonymous said...

Robert, are you trying to keep Montgomery Mall moribund?

Baloney Concrete said...

The garage between Nordstrom and Sears always has plentiful parking, except perhaps on December 23.

Anonymous said...

Robert, I note that David Trone has reported that he is contributing $5 million to his campaign. That raises the question - are you properly reporting the self-funding of your own campaign? Do you have any donors over $100?

Have you received any endorsements, other than the greatly-coveted endorsement from Roald?

Anonymous said...

Hey crack reporter, where is this property? How about including the basics?

Roald said...

Big, big, big!

Maloney Concrete said...

Another redevelopment around the mall.

Anonymous said...

Westfield has been aggressive for years with the objective of thwarting the plans for a "Rock Spring Centre" on the Davis tract. The "Rock Spring Master Plan" area has fantastic demographics for new mixed use development. Westfield wants to make sure that the development occurs on its land NOT the Davis Tract.

Here's a prediction - they will get approval for this plan (thus killing an effort to get investment for Rock Spring Centre) and then slow roll the actual construction.

Anonymous said...

With all this new density, they'll need to put the monorail to Metro back in the plans.

Roald said...

Looking forward to it!!!! Yes Dyer has my endorsement!!
#WESTBARDRETARD2018
#ISTANDWITHTARD

Tim said...

7:12am stop calling Hans a "retard".
Yes, he looked foolish touring Bethesda from a bus and claiming Westbard Ave was easy access on foot to 2 Metro stations, but no need for offensive name calling.

Anonymous said...

7:32 AM The vast, vast majority of Bethesda residents who live around the "Westbard" redevelopment are against the out of town developer's plans. Facts matter!

Building a garage on top of a historic African American cemetery was one of many issues with the plan.

Anna said...

What does "out of town developer" have to do with it?
Would you be less opposed to a local developer doing the same thing?

It's already been established that "tim" is Dyer, no need to keep the charade going.

Tim said...

7:54am nope, I'm not Dyer.
Attacking the messenger gets old.

Boyce Bowles said...

7:54am out of town is highly relevant actually. No connection to the community...more likely to maximize profit, create this disaster and just pull up stakes and leave this mess for residents to deal with.

Let's get back on topic to Westfield's plan. What does everyone want to see there? The first words in my head are walkable and bikable.

Boyce Bowles said...

When I say disaster, I'm referring to the Westbard plan, which residents have panned.

I have an open mind towards Westfield's plans.

Anonymous said...

This is nowhere near rail. How does this advance the county's strategy to concentrate development near mass transit?

Anonymous said...

The Ourisman Ford site developer claimed the current bus center at Westfield and forthcoming BRT station makes the area well served by transit.

Anonymous said...

Transit that's not built yet. I'm skeptical of BRT. I'm not sure it will be anymore attractive to car users than regular buses are. I have a hard time seeing the Ourisman or Montgomery Mall development adding anything but cars to the roads.

Anonymous said...

Which is worse - Bob the Builder reporting daily of retailers closing at Montgomery Mall or Dyer reporting that a private developer wants to expand it's holdings?

Anonymous said...

9:06am I love what Dyer is doing for MoCo with his coverage of the retail beat.

Anonymous said...

MoCo should prioritize extending BRT to Montgomery Mall rather than running a BRT line along the path of the Red Line.

It's true that Montgomery Mall isn't served by Metro, but most shoppers don't use transit for trips that involve multiple packages. Also, compare the economic demographics of the communities surrounding Montgomery Mall to those along the Red Line north of Grosvenor. Retailers want to be where the money is.

Anonymous said...

Any future transit link from Maryland to Tyson's Corner will almost certainly go through the Montgomery County Transit station at Montgomery Mall. Such a link is long over due.

Anonymous said...

To add on to 7:32 he also attacked Marriott and Bernstein for closing their OWN parking lot used by Woodmont Grill customers which refused a handsome offer for their restaurant! Dyer attacks the county council for not attracting businesses but he rails against businesses when they try to build here!

Anonymous said...

11:42 AM Pointing out that the council hasn't attracted businesses is not an "attack".
The Washington Post and others have pointed out the same thing.

Reporting that the Woodmont Grill lot closed isn't an "attack" either.

Is everything an "attack" to 11:42AM?

Anonymous said...

12:04: Mr Dyer seems to believe that asking questions constitutes an "attack" so in that light, surely criticism can also be characterized as such.

http://robertdyer.blogspot.com/2017/05/battery-lane-apartment-building-to-add.html

Anonymous said...

12:52pm You're going back to an article from a year ago. Really?

Robert Dyer said...

5:07: Contrary to troll comments, nowhere in this article have I taken a position for or against this mall development project.

Anonymous said...

What's the deal with the escalators in the Mall now? They seem to always be down for repairs for an extended period of time?

Anonymous said...

Saith Dyer @ 1:22 PM:

"Contrary to troll comments, nowhere in this article have I taken a position for or against this mall development project."

Saith Dyer in the article:

"How do we change the Planning Board?"

"CHANGE THE COUNTY COUNCIL"

That seems to be at the very least an implicit criticism of this mall development project.

Robert Dyer said...

4:06: That's an advertisement, just like the multiple campaign ads appearing on every article on the glossy mag's website these days. How come you never complain about the ads on their site? How come you didn't comment when they had late reports on Slapfish and Thelo Greek Grill last week? Because you are a phony, a fraud, and a hack troll attacking me for pizza money and a free rundown apartment. Apparently, you aren't even ranked high enough to use the Kensington crash pad. LOL

Anonymous said...

There's no separation between advertising and news content on your site. That's one difference between your site and the "glossy mag's website". One of the core tenets of journalism is compartmentalization between advertising, news, and editorial. And there are no such barriers here.

Anna said...

4:35AM - Exactly.

Anonymous said...

"You are a phony, a fraud, and a hack troll attacking me for pizza money and a free rundown apartment. Apparently, you aren't even ranked high enough to use the Kensington crash pad."

Robert Dyer, showing the love for his constituents again.

Anonymous said...

"One of the core tenets of journalism is compartmentalization between advertising, news, and editorial"
So, running an "article" about EYA townhomes with an EYA ad, both using EYA's marketing copy blurs that line quite a bit, don't you agree?

Anonymous said...

@7:41
Do you have a link?

Anonymous said...

http://americanpressassociation.com/principles-of-journalism/

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Wow..Dyer needs to screenshot 8:45am.
His stalker continues his defamation campaign against Dyer- now falsely claiming he is a mentally ill alcoholic.

With recent cases of cyber harassment prosecutions in the news, this seems unwise.

Robert Dyer said...

4:35: You don't even know what you're talking about. Have you ever been to other news websites? Most run ads right in the middle of the content. Scroll down the front page of the glossy mag site, and you'll see a candidate ad that looks just like the real stories above and below it.

5:24: As a paid hack for the MoCo cartel, you are not my constituent. But if I'm elected, you'll probably end up in the County jail.

11:56: You mean like the Post editorial board actively working with charter school companies on propaganda editorials they would then post on their editorial page, with no disclosure? I don't remember seeing your letter to the editor at that time, but maybe that was before you invented the "Anna" persona. Can we talk to "Wrol" now?

Anonymous said...

And on real news sites, the "ads right in the middle of the content" identify themselves with text such as "Sponsored" or "Ad". Yours do not.

And if they also do not, they should be criticized as well. That does not excuse your behavior. You sure have strong opinions on the subject for someone who has never taken any journalism courses.

Robert Dyer said...

5:56: I'm the journalist with the most reporting experience currently reporting on Montgomery County. Also the only journalist to ever uncover government scandals in Montgomery County, something NEVER done by the Washington Post, The Sentinel, local tv stations, Gazette, Almanac or Bethesda Magazine.

You sound like an idiot.

Anonymous said...

It's always funny seeing Robert get all butthurt about being called out on his lack of knowledge andand expert in the field journalism. It shows in his tendency to flip out and lose his temper on his own readers.

Baloney Concrete said...

5:29: Ah, ye olde Trump/gestapo tactic -- lock up your opponents! Even though 5:24 almost certainly isn't a "paid hack of the MoCo cartel." I'm not sure why you find it so hard to believe someone might disagree with you for free, and not at the behest of anybody. It strikes me as a rather odd, megalomaniacal sort of paranoia.

5:58: The Post was founded 141 years ago. In all that time they haven't uncovered a single scandal? That's quite a claim to make.

Anonymous said...

*knowledge and expertise

Anonymous said...

Wait, you can get paid to come here and criticise Dyer? And I'm here doing it for free like a shmuck.

Anonymous said...

"But if I'm elected, you'll probably end up in the County jail."

How will you pull this off, as one Councilmember of 9?

Anonymous said...

@ 9:46 PM - I believe that @ 8:49 PM was asking @ 7:41 PM to provide a link to the article that allegedly promoted EYA, in an unnamed publication.

Anonymous said...

As an unbiased news site, does that mean you will take a Hans ad on your site?

Anonymous said...

@ 6:05 PM:

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Robert Dyer said...

6:06: Notice you changed the point away from my original statement, which was that the Post had never exposed a scandal in the Montgomery County government, to falsely claiming I said they had never exposed any scandal. You just embarrassed yourself.

6:05: Where did you see that? All I saw was my response that powerfully demonstrated my journalistic prowess compared to other media outlets.

6:18: When I lead investigations into the MoCo cartel, bit players like you will be the first ones charged. Then you'll betray your bosses to avoid a long stay in the Big House.

6:41: Argle bargle. At least you found some use for your old Pysch 101 textbook.

Anonymous said...

"powerfully demonstrated my journalistic prowess compared to other media outlets"
OMG I'm dying!!! This is gold.

...wait, Robert is actually serious, isn't he. Robert, never stop being you! This site is entertaining if nothing else.

Anonymous said...

"Ahh, but the strawberries that's...that's where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with geometric logic - that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox DID exist, and I'd have produced that key if they hadn't of pulled the Caine out of action. I, I, I know now they were only trying to protect some fellow officers..."

Anonymous said...

How do you expect to win an election, if you don't campaign anywhere outside your blog with 12 readers?

Robert Dyer said...

7:52: I'm the only local journalist to expose illegal activity in Montgomery County government, so I am deadly serious.

What's "entertaining" is you typing all 3 of the last troll comments yourself in just 20 minutes.

8:10: Considering I've only encountered Hans Riemer at one of over a dozen candidate forums I've participated in, it's Hans you should be concerned about.

Anna said...
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Baloney Concrete said...

Dyer 7:38: Notice when I said “scandal” I clearly meant “scandal in the Montgomery County government” given the context of the conversation. You just embarrassed yourself.

Dyer 8:10: There are dozens of candidates in this election. Why does it always come back to Riemer? Who I shook hands with as he was campaigning outside a Metro station one morning last week, I might add.

Anonymous said...

Robert, have you bought any TV ads? Leventhal has a cool video.

I haven't seen any signs with your name along local roadways, at all.

Are you making any attempt to actually campaign? Are you properly reporting all self-donations to your campaign?

Anonymous said...

6:10am Dyer just said he's attended over a dozen candidate forums.

Anonymous said...

4:13am please don't use mental illness, alcohol addiction and eating disorders as insults to use against people you disagree with politically.
Thanks.

Anna said...

7:03AM - I didn't. You chose to interpret it that way. If it's perfectly fine for him to say that to you, why is it deletable defamation when you copy and paste those same words back at him.