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Wednesday, August 18, 2021
Armed robbery at Bethesda gas station
The hits just keep on coming amid Montgomery County's rising crime rates. An armed robbery was reported to Montgomery County police in Bethesda on Monday night, August 16, 2021. Officers responded to the incident at a gas station in the 5100 block of River Road at 9:30 PM, according to crime data.
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"seldom happens here"
Except when it does, liberals will blame anyone but themselves. They own all of this.
Clearly the robbers were wearing MAGA Hats.
MD is a shall issue state. Sadly and likely unconstitutionally, Marylanders can't get a permit to carry a firearm. Cops are the best but they are always 3-5 minutes, too late to stop an incident like this as you've reported here. Tragic.
You seem to be an alarmist lately. Really, crime rates are "rising"? As opposed to what? It is very well known through real FBI statistics that crime is way down in general from 5 and 10 year perspectives. And this year, after a global pandemic and the political unrest and general craziness caused by both parties, its up? You don't say, wow, that's surprising. How much, is it enough for you to say the sky is falling? Is it because the world is going to hell as the entire media seems to like to sell, or is it a blip as has been seen under every other political and cultural cycle?
I truly like your page, and I hope you aren't a MAGA propagandist. That would be unfortunate, and I'd have to unfollow.
7:10: Violent crimes - homicides, carjackings, armed robberies - are up in Montgomery County, statistically. Rising crime in the county actually predates the events of the last year. For example, in mid 2018, the police chief reported to the County Council that homicides were up 31%, rape was up 53%, and violent gang-related crimes were up 72%.
So this is a longer-term trend here, not related to "defund the police," George Floyd, MAGA or other national debates. Speaking to County police officers for more than a decade, we already were not adequately funding and staffing our police department long before "defund the police."
7:10 PM's ego is only matched by their ignorance.
The summary:
https://covid19.counciloncj.org/2021/01/31/impact-report-covid-19-and-crime-3/
The actual report:
https://build.neoninspire.com/counciloncj/wp-content/uploads/sites/96/2021/07/Year-End-Crime-Update_Designed.pdf
How much is crime up this year, Robert? In 2020 crime fell 14% compared to 2019 (and 2019 was 2.5% lower than 2018). Where is there data newer than year end 2020? Thanks.
Spreading the big lie that the US is "systemically racist" and that blacks are being oppressed is a big part of the problem. Why obey the law and refrain from taking stuff from white people if they are the "oppressors"? As I always say, why do 90% of "people of color" worldwide want to come here if its so systemically racist?
5:39: Serious and violent crimes are up significantly this year. There have been many more homicides, carjackings and armed robberies in the first half of 2021 than in the same period of 2020. In fact, we are already well on the way to far exceeding the number of homicides in 2020 this year, for example.
For all the folks whose contribution to these stories is a reactionary drone of, "Dems own this; next time vote Republican," a question: to the best of my middle-aged recollection, Montgomery County has always been governed by a Democratic County Executive: Elrich, Doug Duncan, Ike Leggett, Neal Potter, Sid Kramer, Charlie Gilchrist. This recent, undeniable rise in crime takes place under a Dem, it is true. But all the years of relative crime-free peace that preceded this uptick in crime were also under the auspices of Democrats. What makes Republican leadership uniquely able to fight crime? We are in an increasingly troubling spot currently, I'll stipulate to that. But all the many years, the decades of tranquility that preceded were under Democratic, not Republican government.
Right, but is there any data aka facts showing this? I have no idea how many robberies there have been this year, do you? I know in 2020 there were 469 and in 2019 there were 584 and in 2018 there were 734, etc. but I don't see data for 2021 so far. Thanks.
In the first half of this year, there were at least 16 homicides in Montgomery County. During the whole year of 2020, there were 19. In all of 2019 there were 15. So in half a year, we were already ahead of 2019, and about to top 2020, and it was only June.
@7:43 AM - Robert your stats are a blanket coverage for the entire county, when certain areas have experienced varying rates of increase or decrease in crime. Perhaps your focus should be on the crime rates specific to each police district a crime is related to. Your politically triggered audience would then have less fuel to experience a seizure over.
True, but homicides are rare enough that their numbers don't tell much of anything. E.g. there were 7 in just the first couple days of January this year. If they had occurred a week earlier and fallen into 2020 then everything you just said would be 100% the opposite. That's why I picked robberies - something with a large enough sample size that it's not thrown off by one deranged husband or one trigger-happy cop.
I guess 6:55 AM has never been to Emory Grove or parts of Gaithersburg/Montgomery Village which has been MC crime central for decades.
Democrats have no idea how to govern and simply want to rule. Republicans aren't innocent either but certainly the lesser of two evils. It certainly isn't a Republican pushing bail reform and "stipulating" to the current increase in crime while ignoring how we got here is blissfully ignorant.
The definition of insanity can sometimes be described as doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. Exactly what 6:55 AM votes for.
8:09: The police chief stated earlier this year that armed robberies were up 40%. Carjackings are way up in Bethesda and Silver Spring. I also don't think we can simply dismiss homicides as something to not worry about. It would certainly be a novel approach, but not very productive to public safety.
I'm not minimizing homicides; I'm minimizing the politicizing of whether a homicide occurs in Jan 2021 or Dec 2020.
8:37 -- "Democrats have no idea how to govern and simply want to rule."
That, class, is what is known as
@6:36 PM: MD is actually a "May Issue" State --> https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/ccw_reciprocity_map/md-gun-laws/
You must show a good and substantial reason to carry a handgun. This is very often denied as a matter of fact.
There's a case out of NY that will be heard at the Supreme Court on Nov. 3rd: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/16/supreme-court-will-hear-arguments-nov-3-over-nra-backed-challenge-to-ny-gun-law.html
Decision to come next year. This outcome of this case will affect MD's conceal carry laws.
Full context - homicides in MoCo over the past 7 years:
2014 = 19
2015 = 30
2016 = 16
2017 = 21
2018 = 19
2019 = 15
2020 = 19
I meant MD is a May Issue state on Concealed Carry one of the very few. People need to wake up and anti-2A politicians need to get out of their own way and change this state to a Shall Issue meaning if you're a law-abiding citizen with no record and apply for carry permit, the state shall issue the permit. Bad guys have guns illegally and decent citizens, who go thru the process lawfully, can't. Makes zero sense.
@ 12:50 - Yes indeed. I corrected myself. We have to change this in MD and SCOTUS ultimately may play a part in that. One of the few in the country and things now are more dangerous than before despite people saying the contrary. Good guys should have a gun if they want to. Bad guys always do and they are always gotten illegally. Makes no sense.
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