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Monday, August 09, 2021
At least 5 cars stolen in Potomac over the weekend
Montgomery County police responded to an unusual number of stolen vehicle reports in low-crime Potomac this past weekend. Vehicles were stolen from homes in the unit block of Hall Court, the 9400 block of Tobin Circle, the 9900 block of Bluegrass Road, the 11000 block of Gainsborough Road, and the 9700 block of Eldwick Way, between Saturday night and Sunday morning.
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Oh well, too bad. Vote Republican next time and call a social worker since you defunded the police.
Nevermind actual facts, like how 9 out of the 10 most crime-ridden states lean heavily Republican and 9 out of 10 of the safest states lean heavily Democratic.
Wasn't some liberal troll who said "It seldom happens here"? Still living in complete denial no doubt.
Multiple car thefts and strong-arm rape in the last couple days. When will these politicians take responsibility?
@2:22 PM: Let's see some receipts for that claim.
While you come up with that, I'll cite NPR from 7/22/2021 --> https://www.npr.org/2021/07/22/1018996709/rising-violent-crime-is-likely-to-present-a-political-challenge-for-democrats-in
> Violent crime is on the rise in urban areas across the country.
> Many small cities that typically have relatively few murders are seeing significant increases over last year. Killings in Albuquerque, N.M., Austin, Texas, and Pittsburgh, for example, have about doubled so far in 2021, while Portland, Ore., has had five times as many murders compared to last year, according to data compiled by Jeff Asher, a crime data analyst and co-founder of AH Datalytics.
> Most cities in the United States, including each of those named above, have a Democratic mayor. After protests last year over police violence against Black Americans — notably the murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis — there has been a push from the left to "defund" police departments.
> As a result, several cities, including Austin and New York, have reduced or reallocated police budgets — though some cities have looked to restore funding in recent months.
Deal with it.
Bravo @ 8:45 PM! 👏👏
@2:22 PM is a predictable leftist liar until they provide stats to prove to the contrary. Which I highly doubt they can.
(Their M.O. is to lie until people believe that the lies are the truth.)
No Republican-run city or state is going to ever be as disgusting and crime ridden as Portland with its CHOP zone 🤦♀️
Or S.F. with its human waste on the sidewalks. I’ll take Giuliani’s NYC stats over DeBlasio’s any day!
And that is even with leftists refusing to enforce half the laws now!
Uhh, of course most cities are Democratic strongholds. That's like me pointing out most trailer parks are Republican strongholds. Duh.
Democrats to victims of their policies: Suck it up!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cori-bush-defund-the-police-private-security-response/
Haha.. you’re surly following CNN.
@8:45...I'm puzzled how @2:22's comments on overall crime statistics and the political leanings of the top-ten safest and most dangerous states wound up with your addressing murder stats in "urban areas" and "several cities, including Austin and New York." That's the sort of pivoting misdirection one expects from politicians content to conflate issues and to confuse the public.
I am confident the Bethesda and/or Potomac Chambers of Commerce would like nothing more than to be compared as on a par with NYC, but I'm not sure you aren't perhaps comparing apples and space shuttles when you offer facts that address arguments not being made here. There has been/is a significant increase in car thefts in the area, no question, and nobody except the thieves will suggest auto theft isn't a serious crime. But even a law-&-order person like you will probably admit it doesn't rise to the level of homicide. If there had been five murders in Bethesda/Potomac over the weekend that would be an altogether different conversation, and you can bet national news correspondents would be crawling all over the place, doing furrowed-brow live reports from the scene(s). But this isn't that. It's opportunistic criminals, quite possibly from the poorer neighborhoods in the region, carpooling out to some of the richest neighborhoods in the country and making off with our fancy rides, which sucks, absolutely, but which is entirely different from the violence of murder.
Lest you reply to suggest I am shrugging my shoulders at auto theft, or saying, "Awww, they're poor and disadvantaged. We should make sure the gas tank is full and the keys are left in the ignition, to help alleviate their pain and suffering," I am not. I hope the cops find these vermin and give them 20 years for every sedan, 30 years for each SUV stolen. I am simply asking that, if you have a rebuttal to make to @2:22's claim, that you address the claim that was made, that "9 out of the 10 most crime-ridden states lean heavily Republican and 9 out of 10 of the safest states lean heavily Democratic."
Lastly, I attest I am not the commenter from @2:22, merely someone who want discussions, debates, arguments to stay focused.
@9:50 PM: Thank you! Exactly right. I completely agree with you. I don't have to prove anything.
@9:50 AM: I'm not misdirecting anything. It's @2:22 PM's job to back up their assertion that "9 out of the 10 most crime-ridden states lean heavily Republican and 9 out of 10 of the safest states lean heavily Democratic" with supporting data. To borrow their terminology: "I'm not going to do the work for them". They can provide the empirical data to back up their assertion. So far, they haven't bothered to do that. So while waiting for them to produce supporting data, I cited information about violent crime from an NPR article. None of that information/data can be challenged on its face. It's solid and grounded in fact.
Auto Theft is a serious problem that shouldn't be dismissed as a non-violent crime. What do you think could happen if someone encountered these thieves while they were in the process of stealing a car? Auto thefts often turn into other crimes of opportunity. Once a car is stolen, it can be used in other crimes, many of which can be violent. These cars aren't merely stolen for a joyride or for chopping parts.
Did you miss the recent "unprecedented surge" (according to MoCo Police) of carjackings that occurred in Montgomery County?: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/montgomery-county-police-say-surge-in-carjackings-is-unprecedented
Did you miss that there was a Strong Arm Rape up by Fleming Local Park: https://robertdyer.blogspot.com/2021/08/strong-arm-rape-reported-in-north.html - That's absolutely horrifying.
So in short, I don't need to make a specific rebuttal to an unsupported claim by @2:22 PM beyond saying it's unsupported by any provided data. It's their claim, so they need to be the one to provide supporting data and prove it..
Ahhhh, the combination straw man/red herring argument; excellent territory to stake out for yourself, @10:39 --
Dismiss 2:22's claim as preposterous, but provide no evidence to support your position. Instead, you claim it is 2:22 who bears the solitary burden of proof to satisfy your disbelief, while you busy yourself re-directing the discussion to speciously address claims 2:22 never made.
Well done.
@6:13 AM: You'll have to do much better than that. Asking @2:22 PM to provide support for an unsupported claim that they made is not a straw man or red herring argument. @2:22 PM saying "9 out of the 10 most crime-ridden states lean heavily Republican and 9 out of 10 of the safest states lean heavily Democratic" is not accompanied by any citation of factual basis, and the burden isn't on anyone else to disprove the claim in the absence of such factual support. It's an inconvenient truth for you that @2:22 PM has the burden to bring receipts to provide support for their unsupported claim. Until they do, it's simply an unsupported distraction which you fell for. I won't even bother making an analogy here, because if this basic concept isn't readily apparent to you at the outset, then you wouldn't get that either.
Whether or not 2:22 "brings receipts," your reply isn't addressing the issue 2:22 brought up. Unless I misread it, your argument in reply to 2:22 is addressing violent crime in urban areas, not overall crime in the entire state, which is a different argument, as is arguing that Japan is guilty of over-fishing abuses in response to someone's saying people who subsist on McDonalds and soft drinks are unhealthier than people who eat a Mediterranean diet.
If you're going to argue, be honest enough to address the actual point that was raised. Doing otherwise, as you seem compelled, shows you as obdurate and dishonest.
Here endeth the lesson.
@6:53 AM: You still don't get it. I am under no obligation to respond to an unsubstantiated point which contains no empirical evidence to support it. Period. Full Stop. If you don't understand that, read it again. 2:22 provided no evidence to support their point, but you seem very self-assured and righteous that I have an obligation to respond to that point for some reason in the absence of any evidence. Once 2:22 provides some semblance of evidence for their point, I'll evaluate the evidence they've provided and respond in kind. They've had every opportunity to do that, and frankly so have you, but neither of you have. You even make an attempt at a defensive analogy because you still don't understand the basic concept here. This is not my burden, no matter how much either of you want it to be. You do the work. I won't do it for you.
2:22's unsupported point and your attempt at righteousness do not preclude me from making any fully supported arguments in furtherance of the discussion. If you want to provide supporting evidence for 2:22's claim, go right ahead, but you can stop with the lectures and movie quotes because I'm not impressed.
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