Close-up of proposed Red Line and Purple Line station access at SW corner of Wisconsin Avenue and Elm Street |
Attorney Bob Harris, of Bethesda's Lerch, Early & Brewer, said last night that he believes two plans his client has developed will accomplish both of those goals. Developed by Shalom Baranes Associates, the plans envision breaking up the site into 3 buildings. Two residential buildings will hold about 600 units, and a third building fronting Wisconsin will house 350,000 SF of office space, Harris said. Retail would front both Wisconsin and Elm Street, and include "a potential retail user below grade," SBA principal Robert Sponseller, AIA, said.
Attorney Bob Harris and Shalom Baranes Associates principal Robert Sponseller, AIA, present Carr's sketch plan |
The potentially-good news is that Sponseller said Carr is leaving open the possibility for Regal Cinemas to be that "potential retail user." Space sufficient for a multiscreen cineplex will be part of the design, a smart acknowledgement of the critical role Regal Cinemas plays in the downtown Bethesda economy. However, Harris and Sponseller stressed that the renderings and specifics are preliminary, and are not meant to represent the final design of the structures.
Urban plaza shown at upper right of floorplan rendering; this version of the plan requires removal of the United Bank/Community Hardware building at the southeast corner of the property |
But Carr representatives said the better of the two plans will require relocation of the historic Community Paint and Hardware building at 7250 Wisconsin Avenue. Now a United Bank, and relocated once before to accommodate the Apex Building, the building started in the 1890s as Wilson's Store. It is widely believed to be the only remaining structure from that early period in downtown Bethesda's history.
Rendering of basic plaza area; not meant to be detailed rendering of the actual space |
View from helicopter hovering over Wisconsin Avenue |
Moving the store again would have two major benefits - it would allow for an "urban plaza" that would retain the public use element currently found in the Apex Building's outdoor plaza at the same corner. That would also permit more direct access to the future Purple Line and current Metro Red Line, via elevators and stairs that would take transit users to a mezzanine connecting to both rail lines. Residents of the two residential buildings would get access from the plaza to their homes, and another 100-150' of retail frontage would open up at the corner.
A second major benefit would be room for more screens in the cineplex, which another SBA architect told me would make the return of Regal or a competing theater chain much more viable. Without that space, the project would be less appealing (fewer screens = less profit, and a less competitive product in a greater Bethesda market with up to 16 screens) to a potential cineplex tenant. It was not immediately known how many screens could fit into a space limited by the hardware store remaining.
Sponseller also said the hardware store is "a real choke point" for the Wisconsin streetscape, currently limiting how wide the sidewalk can be for pedestrians. Removing it would allow for wider sidewalks in front of the new development, he said.
"It's just a better plan," Sponseller said, but it could be "even better" if the County approves a proposed 290' height limit for the Apex site at 7272 Wisconsin. Both plans shown last night presume a 250' height, and an 8 F.A.R. (floor area ratio = total square feet of a building, divided by the total square feet of the lot it's located on) under current zoning rules. Asked whether Carr planned to move the hardware store, or simply demolish it, Harris said that "hasn't been decided."
Plan "B", if Community Hardware building remains on site (the red building at lower left corner; click to enlarge for greater detail) |
Sponseller argued that using multiple buildings on the site would "scale the project to its [urban] context," and allow the Maryland Transit Administration "a better staging design than what's currently being bid" for the Purple Line station. He also noted that the site is currently "underdeveloped in its retail potential," saying the best of the two plans would remedy that, while fostering a continuous activated streetscape to the retail and restaurant hub of Federal Realty's Bethesda Row.
Loading and parking would be consolidated into a single curb cut on Wisconsin, roughly near the current Apex garage curb cut. A second parking entrance would be off of Elm Street. A Capital Crescent Trail tunnel under Wisconsin was in both plans shown last night.
Montgomery County Council Deputy Administrator Glenn Orlin discusses timing and staging for construction of the Purple Line |
Glenn Orlin, Deputy Adminstrator for the County Council, was in attendance at the meeting, and assured residents that a 5' tunnel under Wisconsin will be part of the Purple Line facility regardless of whether or not the Apex Building is redeveloped. However, that tunnel has been strongly criticized by cycling advocates, as it would require cyclists to walk their bikes through the tunnel. Orlin said construction of the Purple Line station is anticipated to begin in December 2016.
That means the pressure is on to get approvals for the Apex redevelopment, which would have to be timed with the Purple Line station construction to achieve the stated goals of staging and a better station. Harris said Carr is already in talks with the MTA, and that he will be filing the sketch plan immediately, in hopes of a February review by the Montgomery County Planning Board.
Footprints of the 3 buildings, should Community Hardware remain on-site (red building at lower-right) |
Should the maximum height be boosted to 290' after the plan is filed, Harris said Carr will file an amendment to request the greater height. He said Carr's project could go forward even if the Purple Line were canceled, and that traffic studies done during the Minor Master Plan Amendment process showed that a development of this density could be accommodated.
A woman who works in the Apex Building asked how soon it could be demolished. Harris joked that she should plan to go to work today, but his serious answer predicted that demolition could come at least a year from now.
Several residents of the adjacent Town of Chevy Chase expressed concerns about the building height, and its impact on Elm St. Park and single-family homes. Harris said it "would have no impact on the park," arguing that the existing Bethesda Crossing building is already more directly impacting that location. "There will be no light coming down that street," a resident predicted. "I'm skeptical of that," Harris replied.
After the presentation, another Chevy Chase resident pointed to an example shown that he said he preferred over the massing shown for the building on Wisconsin. The photograph showed a building similar in height to the Apex, and taller buildings directly behind it.
"This is a very complicated project," Sponseller summarized during his presentation.
32 comments:
No theater / retail entrance from the Bethesda Row side? It would connect the theater and add so much vibrancy to the restaurants and retail in the Row. Come on Carr!!!
No way it's 105 Billion, million more likely.
4:29: You're correct, it was million, not billion. Sorry for the typo.
I'm surprised that the didn't say that the proposed height of the building was 290 billion feet.
A win all-around. And the Council/Leggett rightfully concluded that giving the property owner a $70M handout to encourage the sale was unnecessary.
Maybe Chevy Chase should be infilled with urban buildings at this point. It would make life easier on everybody.
Hopefully the old curmudgeons living in the Town of Chevy Chase won't attack this proposal like they have everything else related to the Purple Line. That Apex building is pretty terrible and it will be nice to have it replaced with something better hopefully it will go through. Hard to judge from the site plan but I have to assume it will be better than that awkward courtyard currently serving as the main entry to the site.
Thanks for covering this Robert
I'm all for anything that makes the Purple Line go more smoothly, but what's so bad about the Apex building? It seems to be in good shape from what I saw.
Maybe it's just my fond memories of going to the movies at KB Theatres as a kid.
It's probably "in good shape" but it's fugly and the harsh corners create bad ch'i for the neighborhood.
Let's continue to encourage Carr to include the theater as part of the project.
Only if it has three IMAX theaters. Otherwise unacceptable.
IMAX is a given.
The Community Paint and Hardware Store is designated in the master plan for historic preservation. Where exactly would they move it to? It's not like there's lots of vacant real estate on that area. If the Apex building could build around the store, I'm sure Carr can too.
I think we can safely say that nothing about that site is historic or necessarily well preserved. If it was still a paint store with old town charm. Sure. What it is now? No. I did not know anything about its history until this news in the last month and I doubt I would have for another five years. Just because something hasn't been torn down yet does not mean it is historic.
I think most agree it's lost any historic value of note. Hence the allowance to move it.
I'm so glad that you reported on this as it's hard to get info from other online sources in a timely fashion. The current Apex building is a bastard building as is, so the plan looks like a much improved situation, although access to Woodmont would be a good idea. I think the parking/loading needs to be revisited, but opening more retail on both Wisconsin & Elm would be a vast improvement.
Save the historic store. So little of Old Bethesda remains.
So what do you want from old Bethesda and why? Do you prefer we go back to the way it was?
I think it's that many of us miss the charm,and quirkiness that was old Bethesda. Almost like Georgetown lite. :)
Speaking just for myself, I worry that Bethesda in 10 years won't live up to the hype. i.e. downtown Rockville.
I get missing charm and quirkiness, but look how much has changed with everything and everywhere. Not much we can do but hang on for the ride and reminisce about things we used to love as well as what makes us happy now. I for one will take smartphones and internet connectivity over the olden days charm of pay phones and MSDOS.
When I think Georgetown I do not think of quirkiness or charm. Maybe Takoma Park checks those boxes, but having a chain bank in what use to be an old paint store in a boring old building will not bring you anywhere closer to that.
We will not rest until the Hot Shoppes and McDonald's Raw Bar are reopened! In their original locations!
There's less than 10 downtown Bethesda buildings designated for historical preservation (also the post office, farmer's market, blues club, Sun Trust bank, etc). The least we can do is keep them intact to save a little Bethesda character while everything else converts to bland glass towers.
I wish the hardware store were filled by something more interesting than a bank, but if they take good care of it I guess that's what's most important.
I'm not sure I'm on the same page. Something like the hardware store just impedes progress. Historical buildings like the blues club are still useful moving forward
OMG!!! McDonald's Raw Bar - haven't thought about that place in forever!
As much as I love the old Community Paint bldg, the end really came at the last build up. Stuck in a place it doesn't belong, creating a logistical mess. Leaving people to wonder WTF it's doing there rather than awww, history. It needs to go.
if the hardware store looks out of place now, it is because it is an interesting structure surrounded by blandness.
In the words of the Bethesda master plan, the hardware store "is the only remaining commercial structure from Bethesda’s early crossroads history. The two-story frame store was built in 1890, on the site of the original Rockville Pike toll booth, and is a good example of turn-of-the-century rural village commercial architecture. Originally the community’s general store and post office, this property became a popular hardware store for several generations of Bethesda families in the 20th century."
If it can serve 21st generations as a bank, why not?
Out of place because of new development around it to suit our needs, yeah. Ugly and old and decrepit, also yeah.
We are no longer a rural village.
IMHO.
Even dyer would admit the one story historic building doesn't fit the urban environment of downtown Bethesda. Maybe they can put it in the suburban Westbard!
Apart from the whole last remaining original structure bit, the fact that it doesn't fit is why it is interesting. You'd think some people would like every building in Bethesda to look exactly the same. Might as well live in Montgomery Mall.
You are certainly entitled to that opinion. But the planners and developers (and people by extension) have agreed it no longer serves an important purpose at that spot and can go.
I wonder what local company would want to move there once it is developed? Looks like a nice location for a hotel as well.
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